On 18.03.21 18:22, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
Which email client do you use? Your responses are grouped as one huge block without any chance to respond to you on specific point or answer to your question.
I'm reading this thread in Tbird, and threading / quoting all looks nice.
I see your flow and understand your position, but will repeat my position. We need to make sure that vendors will have incentive to supply quirks.
I really doubt we can influence that by any technical decision here in the kernel.
And regarding vendors, see Amey response below about his touchpad troubles. The cheap electronics vendors don't care about their users.
IMHO, the expensive ones don't care either. Does eg. Dell publish board schematics ? Do they even publish exact part lists (exact chipsets) along with their brochures, so customers can check wether their HW is supported, before buying and trying out ? Doesn't seem so. I've personally seen a lot cases where some supposedly supported HW turned out to be some completely different and unsupported HW that's sold under exactly the same product ID. One of many reasons for not giving them a single penny anymore. IMHO, there're only very few changes of convincing some HW vendor for doing a better job on driver side: a) product is targeted for a niche that can't live without Linux (eg. embedded) b) it's really *dangerous* for your market share if anything doesn't work properly on Linux (eg. certan server machines) c) somebody *really* big (like Google) is gun-pointing at some supplier, who's got a lot to loose d) a *massive* worldwide shitstorm against the vendor [ And often, even a combination of them isn't enough. Did you know that even Google doesn't get all specs necessary to replace away the ugly FSP blob ? (it's the same w/ AMD, but meanwhile I'm pissed enought to reverse engineer their AGESA blob). ] You see, what we do here in the kernel has no practical influence on those hw vendors. --mtx -- --- Hinweis: unverschlüsselte E-Mails können leicht abgehört und manipuliert werden ! Für eine vertrauliche Kommunikation senden Sie bitte ihren GPG/PGP-Schlüssel zu. --- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult Free software and Linux embedded engineering info@xxxxxxxxx -- +49-151-27565287
