On Fri, Nov 06, 2020 at 03:47:00PM -0800, Dan Williams wrote: > Also feel free to straighten me out (Jason or Ashok) if I've botched > the understanding of this. It is pretty simple when you get down to it. We have a new kernel API that Thomas added: pci_subdevice_msi_create_irq_domain() This creates an IRQ domain that hands out addr/data pairs that trigger interrupts. On bare metal the addr/data pairs from the IRQ domain are programmed into the HW in some HW specific way by the device driver that calls the above function. On (kvm) virtualization the addr/data pair the IRQ domain hands out doesn't work. It is some fake thing. To make this work on normal MSI/MSI-X the VMM implements emulation of the standard MSI/MSI-X programming and swaps the fake addr/data pair for a real one obtained from the hypervisor IRQ domain. To "deal" with this issue the SIOV spec suggests to add a per-device PCI Capability that says "IMS works". Which means either: - This is bare metal, so of course it works - The VMM is trapping and emulating whatever the device specific IMS programming is. The idea being that a VMM can never advertise the IMS cap flag to the guest unles the VMM provides a device specific driver that does device specific emulation to capture the addr/data pair. Remeber IMS doesn't say how to program the addr/data pair! Every device is unique! On something like IDXD this emulation is not so hard, on something like mlx5 this is completely unworkable. Further we never do emulation on our devices, they always pass native hardware through, even for SIOV-like cases. In the end pci_subdevice_msi_create_irq_domain() is a platform function. Either it should work completely on every device with no device-specific emulation required in the VMM, or it should not work at all and return -EOPNOTSUPP. The only sane way to implement this generically is for the VMM to provide a hypercall to obtain a real *working* addr/data pair(s) and then have the platform hand those out from pci_subdevice_msi_create_irq_domain(). All IMS device drivers will work correctly. No VMM device emulation is ever needed to translate addr/data pairs. Earlier in this thread Kevin said hyper-v is already working this way, even for MSI/MSI-X. To me this says it is fundamentally a KVM platform problem and it should not be solved by PCI capability flags. Jason