On 10/26/2020 12:00 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26 2020 at 14:30, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 11:00:52PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote: >>> So without information from the driver which tells what the best number >>> of interrupts is with a reduced number of CPUs, this cutoff will cause >>> more problems than it solves. Regressions guaranteed. >> >> One might want to move from one interrupt per isolated app core >> to zero, or vice versa. It seems that "best number of interrupts >> is with reduced number of CPUs" information, is therefore in userspace, >> not in driver... > > How does userspace know about the driver internals? Number of management > interrupts, optimal number of interrupts per queue? > I guess this is the problem solved in part by the queue management work that would make queues a thing that userspace is aware of. Are there drivers which use more than one interrupt per queue? I know drivers have multiple management interrupts.. and I guess some drivers do combined 1 interrupt per pair of Tx/Rx.. It's also plausible to to have multiple queues for one interrupt .. I'm not sure how a single queue with multiple interrupts would work though. >>> Managed interrupts base their interrupt allocation and spreading on >>> information which is handed in by the individual driver and not on crude >>> assumptions. They are not imposing restrictions on the use case. >>> >>> It's perfectly fine for isolated work to save a data set to disk after >>> computation has finished and that just works with the per-cpu I/O queue >>> which is otherwise completely silent. >> >> Userspace could only change the mask of interrupts which are not >> triggered by requests from the local CPU (admin, error, mgmt, etc), >> to avoid the vector exhaustion problem. >> >> However, there is no explicit way for userspace to know that, as far as >> i know. >> >> 130: 34845 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 IR-PCI-MSI 33554433-edge nvme0q1 >> 131: 0 27062 0 0 0 0 0 0 IR-PCI-MSI 33554434-edge nvme0q2 >> 132: 0 0 24393 0 0 0 0 0 IR-PCI-MSI 33554435-edge nvme0q3 >> 133: 0 0 0 24313 0 0 0 0 IR-PCI-MSI 33554436-edge nvme0q4 >> 134: 0 0 0 0 20608 0 0 0 IR-PCI-MSI 33554437-edge nvme0q5 >> 135: 0 0 0 0 0 22163 0 0 IR-PCI-MSI 33554438-edge nvme0q6 >> 136: 0 0 0 0 0 0 23020 0 IR-PCI-MSI 33554439-edge nvme0q7 >> 137: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 24285 IR-PCI-MSI 33554440-edge nvme0q8 >> >> Can that be retrieved from PCI-MSI information, or drivers >> have to inform this? > > The driver should use a different name for the admin queues. > > Thanks, > > tglx >