On Wednesday 02 June 2010, Alan Stern wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > > Do PCI bus type callbacks need to be reworked to work correctly with unbound > > > > devices? > > > > > > They do; I neglected to take care of them when first writing this > > > patch. After everything is working I'll submit it for real. For now, > > > the point was to find out whether this is going in the right direction. > > > > I don't have a fundamental problem with it. As long as all things can be made > > work along these lines, it's fine by me. > > Arggh! I just tried out a revised patch. It seems to work > perfectly, except for one thing. When I unbound ehci-hcd from one of > the USB controllers, which should have caused the controller to be > runtime-suspended, this is what showed up in the log: > > [ 295.651545] pci 0000:00:1d.7: PME# enabled > [ 295.664044] pci 0000:00:1d.7: Refused to change power state, currently in D0 > > Which seems to mean that the controller didn't want to go into D3hot! > Presumably this is because it was unconfigured when the driver was > unbound. That's the only explanation I can think of; the controller > had no objection about going into D3hot when it was bound to the > driver. Hmm. I must say I don't quite understand this behavior. Oh well. > Assuming other PCI devices will have similar behavior, I have to agree > that there's no point trying to put driverless devices into low-power > states. I guess so. > One more thing: When looking at the r8169 and e1000e drivers, I noticed > that you used the same test (pci_dev_run_wake -- not the greatest name > in the world, BTW) It's following the ACPI naming which I admit generally sucks. > in both the probe and remove routines. That's not > the right thing to do if the runtime-wakeup setting could get changed > inbetween. (I realize that currently there is no way to change the > setting, but in the future there might be.) > > Do you want to make an explicit assumption that the runtime wakeup > settings are fixed, not subject to change? I'm not sure yet. :-) > If so, then why not compute the setting just once, when the device is > registered, and store it in the pci_device structure? Or even in the struct > device? If we decide it will be immutable, then yes, in which case I think struct pci_dev will be a better place to store it, because that kind of setting may not be meaningful for other types of devices (some of them will always be wakeup-capable and some of them will never be). Rafael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-pci" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html