On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, Al Viro wrote: > On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 11:41:19AM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote: > > On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Al Viro wrote: > > > Frankly, I very much suspect that force-umount is another case like that; > > > we'll need a *lot* of interesting cooperation from fs for that to work and > > > to be useful. I'd be delighted to be proven incorrect on that one, so > > > if you have anything serious in that direction, please share the details. > > > > Umm, not sure why we'd need cooperation from the fs. Simply wait for > > the operation to exit the filesystem or driver. If it's a blocking > > operation, send a signal to interrupt it. > > And making sure that operations *are* interruptible (and that we can cope > with $BIGNUM new failure exits correctly) does not qualify as cooperation? I'm still not getting what the problem is. AFAICS file operations are either a) non-interruptible but finish within a short time or b) may block indefinitely but are interruptible (or at least killable). Anything else is already problematic, resulting in processes "stuck in D state". Can you give a more concrete example about your worries? Thanks, Miklos -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-pci" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html