Thomas Gleixner <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > But the current SoC maintainer model does not work either. The SoC > maintainers care about their sandbox and have exactly zero incentive > to look at the overall picture, e.g reuse of code for the same IP > blocks, better abstraction mechanisms etc. zero incentive? that's a bit strong, IMO. That may be true for some SoCs, it's not really fair as a sweeping statement. Some SoCs families (like OMAP) have huge amount of diversity even within the SoC family, so better abstractions and generic infrastrucure improvements are an obvious win, even staying within the SoC. There are several examples of SoC maintainers looking at the overall picture and contributing to better abstractions and common infrastructure code. One is USB as Felipe already pointed out where the same USB OTG IP block (with vendor tweaks of course) is used across several completely different SoCs with common infrastructure code. Another example that I'm more familiar with is power management. In OMAP land, we have been been very supportive and active in generic infrastructure improvements (like runtime PM.) In fact runtime PM was born partially because one of the other ARM SoC maintainers (Magnus Damm, SH-mobile) proposed the idea as he was implementing PM for that SoC family. We have been actively contributing to the runtime PM infrastructure with both code, testing, converting our drivers over to using runtime PM. and contributing back fixes and enhancements as we find problems or limitations. In addition, personally, I have spent the last year evangelizing the importance of using common frameworks like runtime PM to the embedded community via talks at the Embedded Linux Conference (ELC, US and Europe.) Especially as IP blocks are reused across SoC families, abstractions like runtime PM are the only way to keep the SoC specifics of PM out of the common driver. Yes, ARM SoC maintainers have to make up some ground. But compare this to just a couple years ago where the common complaint was "why aren't embedded SoC people contributing code to mainline", and you'll see we have come a long way. Kevin Maintainer of parts of the ARM kernel: - TI Davinci SoC family - TI OMAP Power Management infrastructure -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-omap" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html