On 24/10/22 10:58 am, Tony Lindgren wrote: > Hi, > > Adding Nishanth to Cc also. > > * Ilpo Järvinen <ilpo.jarvinen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [221017 12:06]: >> On Mon, 17 Oct 2022, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote: >> >>> On 2022-10-17 11:12:41 [+0300], Ilpo Järvinen wrote: >>>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022, Matthias Schiffer wrote: >>>> >>>>> We were occasionally seeing the "Errata i202: timedout" on an AM335x >>>>> board when repeatedly opening and closing a UART connected to an active >>>>> sender. As new input may arrive at any time, it is possible to miss the >>>>> "RX FIFO empty" condition, forcing the loop to wait until it times out. >>>> >>>> I can see this problem could occur and why your patch fixes it. >>>> >>>>> Nothing in the i202 Advisory states that such a wait is even necessary; >>>>> other FIFO clear functions like serial8250_clear_fifos() do not wait >>>>> either. For this reason, it seems safe to remove the wait, fixing the >>>>> mentioned issue. >>>> >>>> Checking the commit that added this driver and the loop along with it, >>>> there was no information why it would be needed there either. >>> >>> I don't remember all the details but I do remember that I never hit it. >>> The idea back then was to document what appears the problem and then >>> once there is a reproducer address it _or_ when there is another problem >>> check if it aligns with the output here (so that _this_ problem's origin >>> could be this). This was part of address all known chip erratas and >>> copied from omap-serial at the time so that the 8250 does not miss >>> anything. >>> Looking closer, this is still part of the omap-serial driver and it was >>> introduced in commit >>> 0003450964357 ("omap2/3/4: serial: errata i202: fix for MDR1 access") >> >> I found that one too but it doesn't give any explanation for it either. >> In fact, the wait for empty is mysteriously missing from the itemized >> description of the workaround in the commit message. >> >>> If someone found a way to trigger this output which is unrelated to the >>> expected cause then this is clearly not helping nor intended. >>> >>> I would prefer to keep the loop and replace the disturbing output with a >>> comment describing _why_ the FIFO might remain non-empty after a flush. >>> >>> In worst cases that loop causes a delay of less than 0.5ms while setting >>> a baud rate so I doubt that this is causing a real problem. > > This sounds like a safe solution for me if it's needed. > >>> Either way I would like to see Tony's ACK before this is getting removed >>> as suggested in this patch. >> >> Thanks for chimming in. >> >> I went to do some lore searching and came across this thread (it should >> be added with Link: tag the patch regardless of its final form): >> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-omap/4BBF61FE.3060807@xxxxxx/ > > Nishanth, do you have any more info on checking for fifo empty here? > At least TRMs of newer SoCs such as AM654 [0] have following note: NOTE : Bits UART_FCR[2] TX_FIFO_CLEAR and UART_FCR[1] RX_FIFO_CLEAR are automatically cleared by hardware after 4 × UARTi_ICLK + 5 × UARTi_FCLK clock cycles. This delay is needed to finish the resetting of the corresponding FIFO and DMA control registers. I guess we can drop FIFO empty check and instead add above delay required for FIFOs to be reset. [0] https://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/spruid7e 12.1.5.4.6 UART FIFO Management Regards Vignesh