Re: [PATCH v2] drm: omapdrm: Export correct scatterlist for TILER backed BOs

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On 15/11/2021 11:23, Matthijs van Duin wrote:
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 10:42:41AM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
A BO's memory via the TILER memory is
contiguous, although with consistent gaps of
memory that should not be accessed.

But pretending that these "gaps" are part of the buffer is a security
vulnerability, since that memory which "should not be accessed" may
belong to different security contexts, and exporting the entire
contiguous region covering the buffer allows untrusted contexts (e.g.
userspace) to access this memory.

Yes, I fully agree. I wasn't criticizing the patch, just wanted to highlight the unmentioned aspects.

IPs that might use TILER
backed BOs only support contiguous memory.

This means that the drivers for such IPs cannot
use the BOs exported like you do in this patch.
I believe the drivers could be improved by
writing a helper function which studies the
sg_table and concludes that it's actually
contiguous.

That indeed sounds like the proper solution for such importers, rather
than making the exporter lie about the buffer bounds to work around
limitations of these importers.

The annoying thing with this solution is that we need to add extra code to all the drivers that want to import TILER buffers, even if the drivers shouldn't know anything about TILER.

Then again, the code is not really TILER or OMAP specific, and any IP on any platform that only supports contiguous buffers, but supports stride, could import such buffers. Which hints that maybe the code should be somewhere in the framework, not in the driver. In practice it may be better to just swallow the annoyance, add the code to the drivers and be done with it =).

Did you look at the userspace mmap of TILER
buffers? I wonder if that goes correctly or not.
Isn't memory to userspace mapped per page, and
lengths of the TILER lines are not page aligned?

Mapping to userspace uses an ugly hack whereby small slabs of the
buffer (4096x64 (8bpp), 2048x32 (16bpp), or 1024x32 (32bpp) pixels) are
dynamically mapped to dedicated page-aligned regions of the TILER
virtual space.  For each of the three bitdepths only two such slabs can
be mapped into userspace at any given time (on the entire system), so
using this mechanism to render graphics from userspace can easily cause
hundreds if not thousands of page faults per second.

Ah, right, yes, now I remember. The userspace mmap of TILER buffers isn't very usable.

The alternative (used e.g. in the pyra kernel) is to force all TILER
buffers to be page-aligned, at the cost of wasting some TILER space.
This will presumably also be necessary to allow SGX to import these
buffers since its MMU can obviously also not map data which is not
page-aligned, same for any other importer which uses an MMU to enforce
memory security (rather than being trusted to simply refrain from
accessing data outside the declared bounds).

Ideally such page-alignment should only be applied to buffers which are
intended to be consumed by importers which require this, though it's not
clear how that might be accomplished.

Do you mean that each TILER _line_ should be page aligned and the length should be page divisible? Doesn't that cause quite a lot of wasted space? Although that, of course, depends on the use. If the primary use case is allocating a few full screen display buffers, perhaps the waste is negligible.

In any case, I'm fine with that change, too, as it helps making TILER usable.

And while speaking about usable, if I recall right, the omap_bo_new_tiled() is pretty annoying to use. You need to give the width and OMAP_BO_TILED_x flag as a parameter, and if I recall right, it's all but obvious how those need to be set for, e.g. NV12. But it works so perhaps better to keep it as it is...

There was also some particular YUV format with some rotations that I never got working, even after discussing with TI DSS HW guys.

 Tomi



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