On Tue, 29 Jun 2021, at 9:21 PM, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Hi Mark, > > > Am 29.06.2021 um 20:56 schrieb Mark Brown <broonie@xxxxxxxxxx>: > > > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 08:34:55PM +0200, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >>> Am 29.06.2021 um 17:59 schrieb Mark Brown <broonie@xxxxxxxxxx>: > > > > > >> So it was working fine without having the supplying regulator resolved. AFAIK they > >> just serve as fixed regulators in the device tree and have no physical equivalent. > > > > No, not at all - it's representing whatever provides input power to the > > regulator. There may be no physical control of it at runtime on your > > system but that may not be true on other systems. It's quite common for > > there to be a chain of regulators (eg, DCDCs supplying LDOs) and then > > they all need to get get power managed appropriately and you don't end > > up thinking a regulator is enabled when the input regulator is disabled. > > Yes, that is how it is chained in other cases. > > > > >> My proposal just moves setting the supply_name behind devm_regulator_register() and > >> by that restores the old behaviour. > > > > This means that we won't actually map the supply and any system that > > relies on software handling the supply regulator will be broken. > > Well, it seems as if the supply regulators are only vsys_cobra and > vdds_1v8_main. > At least in omap5-board-common.dtsi which is what I can test. > > Both are fixed regulators where calling enable or not doesn't become > physically visible. The hardware still supplies the 5V and 1.8V to the palmas > chip. > > Maybe the new rule by commit 98e48cd9283dreveals a design issue inside of > the Palmas driver which assumes that there is no need to control its supply > regulators. And does not handle probe deferral. > > Then of course my patch is just a work-around for a bug but not a solution. > > > > >> Well, unless... > > > >> ... devm_regulator_register() does something differently if desc->supply_name > >> is not set before and changed afterwards. It may miss that change. > > > > We resolve supplies during regulator registration, this would > > effectively just skip mapping of the supply. > > > >> So I hope for guidance if my approach is good or needs a different solution. > > > > What I would expect to happen here would be that once vsys_cobra is > > registered the regulators supplied by it can register and then all their > > consumers would in turn be able to register. You should look into why > > that supply regulator isn't appearing and resolve that, or if a consumer > > isn't handling deferral then that would need to be addressed. > > Ah, I think I get an idea what may be going wrong. > > There seems to be a deadlock in probing: > > e.g. ldo3_reg depends on vdds_1v8_main supply > vdds_1v8_main depends on smps7_reg supply > smps7_reg depends on vsys_cobra supply > vsys_cobra depends on nothing > > This would normally lead to a simple chain as you described above. But > ldo3_reg and smps7_reg share the same driver and can probe successfully or > fail only in common. > > Now if ldo3_reg defers probe through the new rule, smps7_reg is never > probed successfully because it is the same driver. Hence vdds_1v8_main can > not become available. And the Palmas continues to run in boot initialization > until some driver (MMC) wants to switch voltages or whatever. > > Maybe Tony or Graeme has an idea how to do it right... > Sorry after almost 10 years I have forgotten all about this driver. Graeme