Re: omap5 mpu bridge dividers

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On 16 August 2016 at 15:44, Nishanth Menon <nm@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 08/15/2016 11:44 PM, Matthijs van Duin wrote:
>>
>> It is worth mentioning that based on tests I've done (on an
>> omap5-uevm), the clock speed of the async L3 bridge appears to be the
>> bottleneck for traffic between the Cortex-A15 and the L3 interconnect.
>> As a result, if the bridge clock divider is adjusted as mandated by
>> the datasheet, L3-heavy workloads will actually perform noticably
>> worse at OPP_HIGH (bridge @ 1500/8 = 187.5 MHz) than at OPP_NOM
>> (bridge @ 1000/4 = 250 MHz).
>>
>> This is an awkward situation.
>>
>> It would be nice to know what the actual maximum clock speed permitted
>> for the async bridge is, to have an alternative OPP_HIGH mode where
>> the bridge divider is left at /4 and the cpu speed only raised as much
>> as the async bridge will tolerate. I have however not found this
>> specified in the datasheet.
>>
>> Also, what are the risks involved in overclocking the async bridge as
>> is done currently? Will it adversely affect device lifetime? Result in
>> silent data corruption? Cause protocol errors resulting in deadlock?
>
>
> That would be an invalid Soc Operation condition

That doesn't actually answer though


>> It seems curious to me that this problem presumably affects every
>> omap5 and dra75x/am572x (and possibly dra72x/am571x?) currently out
>> there, yet no problems have been encountered (or at least been
>> attributed to it), even though leaving the divider at /4 would seem to
>> severely overclock it (at 375 MHz). I have myself not observed any
>> problems while attempting to flood the interface (from/to TILER).
>>
>> A rare deadlock may actually be an acceptable performance tradeoff for
>> some applications, especially since the cortex-A15 itself already
>> includes rare deadlocks, some with performance-affecting workaround
>> (801819, https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/6960921/), some with no
>> workaround (799271).
>>
>> On the other hand, random silent corruption or a serious reduction in
>> device POH would be less likely to be considered acceptable by anyone.
>>
>> Some clarification from TI would be very welcome here.
>
>
> Hmm.. This does seem on the first look to be a miss in our configuration - i
> recollect in older evil-vendor-production kernel (circa 3.0/3.4 kernels) we
> had handled this, but much has changed since then.
>
> Tero is on vacation atm, will have to see how he'd like to handle this.

Any news?

Matthijs
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