On 04/11/2015 02:27 PM, Nishanth Menon wrote: > On 04/10/2015 02:40 PM, Peter Hurley wrote: >> [ +Sebastian, +Tony ] >> >> On 04/10/2015 02:18 PM, Nishanth Menon wrote: >>> 8250 driver should be relatively feature complete. It can co-exist >>> with omap-serial driver >> >> Not really; if the omap_8250 is selected then it is probed first >> and will be the only driver claiming omap UART ports. >> >> omap-serial would just be dead-weight. > > true.. my bad.. > >> >>> , so just enable 8250 OMAP layer driver and >>> route all ttyOx references to ttySx through the standard 8250 driver >>> to ensure no breakage of userspace occurs. >> >> Not quite; the only automatic handling is for console only, not for >> userspace. Expect lots of userspace breakage. >> > > > Yep - overall, looking through individual logs, in my testing, it seems > to work at least for console for all platforms - even though the > filesystems are mostly going bonkers -> older fs did not have the udev > redirection to take care of this - mostly to do with the getty hooked on > to static consoles. > > > There are infact two issues: > a) bootloader change for cmdline -> O2 to S2 -> in many cases we are > lesser inclined to change the bootloader, hence the fixup configuration Just an FYI - support for handling of _any_ console command line string by _any_ driver was accepted for 4.01; the console can declare a match() function which will be called at registration time for every console command line, and can opt to perform console setup using any criteria. This provides a migration path for _any_ driver (and also allow any earlycon-to-console handoff for non-8250 drivers by using a defined match() function to match the appropriate earlycon= command line; the particulars are in the univ8250_console_match() kernel-doc header in -next). > b) fs changes - these are sometimes more realistic to do, but is a clear > breakage risk. > > Overall, keeping two equally functional drivers in the system sounds a > bunch of maintenance burden for all of us and not to mention confusion > for the future. I think for the moment we should just freeze omap-serial and let most of userspace catch up first; a lot of the official and unofficial vender support is still stuck in 3.14. By the time, 3.19+ is de rigueur we'll hopefully have figured out the ttyS sharing and how to migrate without breaking userspace. > Btw, I am not exactly proposing this for 4.1 kernel.. :) I knew that. > instead, we should > probably discuss how to best introduce this in and throw out the older > omap_serial driver - just reuse 8250 and co-exist with the rest of the > good world folks ;).. I agree -- thanks for bringing the topic up. Regards, Peter Hurley -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-omap" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html