Re: HYP Kernel boot requirements

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On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 09:49:10PM +0000, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 November 2013 12:37 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 09:47:13AM -0500, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 26 November 2013 09:13 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 07:44:08PM +0000, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
> >>>> On Monday 25 November 2013 12:28 PM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 04:59:16PM +0000, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
> >>>>>> What I am saying is the platforms like OMAP5 already support PM in
> >>>>>> mainline kernel and we can't break that for KVM. Boot-loaders
> >>>>>> would be thrashed after boot so you need something which runs
> >>>>>> in Kernel or along with Kernel to have equivalent of hyp
> >>>>>> switching.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Am not challenging the agreed direction but we need to solve the
> >>>>>> PM problem as well before making "all CPU runs boot-loader for
> >>>>>> HYP kernels" as a must have. At least its is a change in boot
> >>>>>> strategy from existing kernels.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Of course I recommend PSCI which covers both hotplug and suspend ;), but
> >>>>> I guess it's not the case for OMAP5. Since OMAP has its own secondary
> >>>>> booting protocol and CPU hotplug re-entry, can you not just use
> >>>>> different entry point when the primary CPU was initially started in Hyp
> >>>>> mode (e.g. omap5_hyp_secondary_startup)?
> >>>>>
> >>>> How will that solve the guest secondary boot failure case when using
> >>>> the same kernel binary for guest-boot ? Even for primary CPU which
> >>>> will be suspended it needs to resume already in HYP mode and its not
> >>>> going to go through boot-loader. So the low power code needs to have
> >>>> HYP switch code so that CPU resumes in HYP mode.
> >>>
> >>> Is it late to rewrite the OMAP5 firmware?
> >>>
> >> Well its ROM'ed unfortunately so no choice. OMAP5 ROM did implement
> >> a secure API which lets you enter into HYP mode and thats the only
> >> thing can be used.
> > 
> > If the ROM is capable of loading some additional signed Secure World
> > firmware after the ROM itself has booted, PSCI could be implemented
> > in the second, resident firmware payload.
> > 
> > Some SoCs ship with boot ROMs that can do that -- is this not the case
> > for OMAP5?
> > 
> On OMAP, the secure devices there is a way to do this but not for 
> general purpose devices. General purpose devices once you
> exit the ROM code, we exit out of security and only way to
> re-enter secure word is via ROM implemented monitor/secure
> APIs.

As last resort, you can still write a bunch of instructions acting as
warm-bootloader, reserve a page and add them there. Code required is just
a shim layer and should not require more than few bytes, after all
it has just to check some variables and jump accordingly (+ calling
smc if required).

Not pretty, agreed, but still better than patching the kernel IMHO
(basically you will end up patching the bootloader - and possibly the
dtb - instead, to install the shim mentioned above).

Lorenzo

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