Op 2 aug 2008, om 11:53 heeft Emanoil Kotsev het volgende geschreven:
I'll stop this discussion. If you feel you are right, then this should be true and I don't mind it.The problem was with you calling 2.6.22 a "such old", but I give up this discussion too. You have the right to think it is and I have the right to do not. After I have your point of view I have to live with that, hope the same for you.It would be anyway nice if you do not make such (2.6.22 - "such old") statments, but if you wish you could and I don't mind either.I think I'll spend my time filing bugs instead of arguing with you, as it leads to nothing obviously.Unfortunately I still don't have a solution - until bugs from 3rd party vednors are solved you label the kernel as old ... but may be in future it will change.
2.6.22 will only get older in the future
regars --- On Sat, 8/2/08, Felipe Balbi <me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:From: Felipe Balbi <me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: USB driver issue To: "Emanoil Kotsev" <deloptes@xxxxxxxxx>Cc: me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "linux-omap@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <linux-omap@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >, "linux-omap-open-source@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <linux-omap-open-source@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >, "linux-usb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <linux-usb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 11:17 AM On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 02:02:27AM -0700, Emanoil Kotsev wrote:Felipe, thank you for answering. I now see what'sthe problem with you you should really rephrase this.I don't see anywhere the word"production" in your list, and that's my point. I want something that works and if there is a bug to be able to fix it and make it more stable. And that will come from the commercial company you said below. Hopefully that commercial company will also notify the community so that bug won't happen again in recent kernel versions. That's exactly what we do when we release a new version of our Maemo SW, it's not only a theme change, we're fixing bugs all around the thing.You debug, test and develop but you DON'T ralay onit. I am willing to have the oposite. NOT developeing, testing and debuging, but just using it - can you understand that? And this is something you still don't get. I DO relay on it. Of course we freeze internal development as soon as we release the pieces to linux-omap, because it doesn't make any sense for us to keep backporting so many pieces, although I remember backporting some patches to 2.6.18 back in n800 time.I want to use a kernel for PRODUCTION purposes, notfor playing with it as you obviously do. I don't have time to start over debugging different issues that I did not have with the previous release, especially when it comes to my personal data that's stored out there. you're wrong here. By the time we release our kernel, we also publish everything to linux-omap tree. You can get any version of linux-omap and boot your n8xx up to maemo desktop. That's even not a big deal. Unfortunately we have a few closed source pieces which we are still trying to open, believe me, it's not as easy as publishing.Even commercial companies support flavour of theirOS's for years, so why shouldn't the linux community don't do it. It would bring benefit to all of us. Please refer to the discussion with Greg. I thinkg it makes more sense But then you can get the support from those commercial companies, can't you ? If there is someone else already supporting older versions of the kernel why should we stop ? The thing is, I just want to be sure the bug someone is reporting still happens in current code, otherwise I won't bother looking. If it's fixed, I just don't have enough time to backport, anyone else can do it for you, or even you if you have the time/expertise to do so. -- balbi--To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux- omap" inthe body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
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