Re: [PATCH 0/1] nilfs2: add mount option that reduces super block writes

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On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 07:29:14 +0100, Andreas Rohner wrote:
> Hi Ryusuke,
> 
> On 2014-01-30 06:29, Ryusuke Konishi wrote:
>> Hi Andreas,
>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 03:46:59 +0100, Andreas Rohner wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is only a hacky proof of concept implementation and probably 
>>> full of nasty bugs. I also havn't really tested it. I was 
>>> just interested how hard it would be to implement Clemens' suggestion 
>>> of writing the super block only at umount time and do a linear scan 
>>> of all the segments in case of file system failure.
>>> The linear scan is only performed if the file system wasn't shut down 
>>> properly. So for normal operation there shouldn't be any slowdown.
>> 
>> This premise is not acceptable.
>> We have to avoid long mount time even after unexpected power failures.
>> 
>> I prefer some sort of way which combines binary search of segment
>> summary blocks and partial linear scan of logs. 
>> 
>> I don't know the latency of recent SSDs, however we should estimate
>> the latency of disk I/O about 5ms~20ms per a separate block (in the
>> case of hard drives).  So the maximum number of scans of segment
>> summary blocks seems to be roughly 10~100 times.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Ryusuke Konishi
> 
> Basically I agree with you. It was just a quick experiment. I just
> thought Clemens suggestion, to have a mount option to turn on the linear
> scan for users who want it, was worth a try.

I see.  For further discussion on this approach, it looks like we need
some measurement data of the situation that this patch makes a
difference (for example, for an SD card or some device).  Anyway, I
agree that the patch has a value for experiment purpose.

Thanks,
Ryusuke Konishi


> br,
> Andreas Rohner
> 
>>>
>>> I repurposed the ss_pad field of nilfs_segment_summary to contain the 
>>> crc seed, because I needed a way to distinguish left over segments 
>>> from previous nilfs2 volumes from real segments that are part of the 
>>> current file system. 
>>>
>>> I don't really expect it to be merged or anything. Maybe it can spark 
>>> a discussion. Maybe somebody could try it out on an old SD-Card and 
>>> time the mount command or something.
>>>
>>> I tested it on a virtual machine. It seemed to recover fine when I 
>>> killed the VM and mounted it again. Clearly more testing is 
>>> necessary...
>>>
>>> br,
>>> Andreas Rohner
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Andreas Rohner (1):
>>>   nilfs2: add mount option that reduces super block writes
>>>
>>>  fs/nilfs2/segbuf.c        |  3 ++-
>>>  fs/nilfs2/segment.c       |  3 ++-
>>>  fs/nilfs2/super.c         | 10 +++++++--
>>>  fs/nilfs2/the_nilfs.c     | 54 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>>>  include/linux/nilfs2_fs.h |  4 +++-
>>>  5 files changed, 66 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
>>>
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>>> 1.8.5.3
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