> On Apr 3, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> On Apr 3, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Trond Myklebust <trondmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 17:46 -0400, Chuck Lever wrote: >>>> On Apr 3, 2020, at 4:05 PM, Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Trond, thanks for the look! >>>> >>>>> On Apr 3, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Trond Myklebust < >>>>> trondmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 15:42 -0400, Chuck Lever wrote: >>>>>> Commit 3832591e6fa5 ("SUNRPC: Handle connection issues >>>>>> correctly on >>>>>> the back channel") intended to make backchannel RPCs fail >>>>>> immediately when there is no forward channel connection. What's >>>>>> currently happening is, when the forward channel conneciton >>>>>> goes >>>>>> away, backchannel operations are causing hard loops because >>>>>> call_transmit_status's SOFTCONN logic ignores ENOTCONN. >>>>> >>>>> Won't RPC_TASK_NOCONNECT do the right thing? It should cause the >>>>> request to exit with an ENOTCONN error when it hits >>>>> call_connect(). >>>> >>>> OK, so does that mean SOFTCONN is entirely the wrong semantic here? >>>> >>>> Was RPC_TASK_NOCONNECT available when 3832591e6fa5 was merged? >>> >>> It turns out 3832591e6fa5 is not related. It's 58255a4e3ce5 that >>> added >>> RPC_TASK_SOFTCONN on NFSv4 callback Calls. >>> >>> However, the server uses nfsd4_run_cb_work() for both NFSv4.0 and >>> NFSv4.1 callbacks. IMO a fix for this will have to take care that >>> RPC_TASK_NOCONNECT is not set on NFSv4.0 callback tasks. >> >> Possibly, but don't we really want to let such a NFSv4.0 request fail >> and send another CB_NULL? There is already version-specific code in >> nfsd4_process_cb_update() to set up the callback client. > > A not unreasonable conclusion. But it's hard to test the NFSv4.0 case, > since it's instability on the forward channel that is tickling this > problem. The NFSv4.0 callback connection is not affected by that. > > Maybe Bruce has a thought? Otherwise we can try an unconditional > NOCONNECT for now. RPC_TASK_NOCONNECT was added three years after > 58255a4e3ce5, fwiw... I confirmed that NFSv4.0 callback does not tolerate using the RPC_TASK_NOCONNECT flag in nfsd4_run_cb_work(). After replacing SOFTCONN with NOCONNECT, the NFSv4.0 mount operates without using delegation. setup_callback_client creates the callback rpc_clnt with NOPING. The current callback mechanism depends on the next RPC Call to initiate connection establishment. Setting NOCONNECT by itself is still not enough to prevent a soft lockup, btw. The rpc_xprt for the backchannel is still marked connected, so the NOCONNECT check in call_connect is skipped entirely on subsequent retransmits. My fix now includes some new code to ensure that the backchannel rpc_xprt is marked closed by svc_delete_xprt. I'll post the updated patch soon. -- Chuck Lever