On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 10:59 -0400, bfields@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:58:19AM -0400, bfields@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 02:53:01PM +0000, Trond Myklebust wrote: > > > The one problem is that the looping forever client can cause > > > other > > > clients to loop forever on their otherwise successful writes on > > > other > > > files. > > > > Yeah, that's the case I was wondering about. > > > > > That's bad, but again, that's due to client behaviour that is > > > toxic even today. > > > > So my worry was that if write errors are rare and the consequences > > of > > the single client looping forever are relatively mild, then there > > might > > be deployed clients that get away with that behavior. > > > > But maybe the behavior's a lot more "toxic" than I imagined, hence > > unlikely to be very common. > > (And, to be clear, I like the idea, just making sure I'm not > overlooking > any problems....) > I'm open to other suggestions, but I'm having trouble finding one that can scale correctly (i.e. not require per-client tracking), prevent silent corruption (by causing clients to miss errors), while not relying on optional features that may not be implemented by all NFSv3 clients (e.g. per-file write verifiers are not implemented by *BSD). That said, it seems to me that to do nothing should not be an option, as that would imply tolerating silent corruption of file data. -- Trond Myklebust Linux NFS client maintainer, Hammerspace trond.myklebust@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx