Re: NFSv4.1 session reset needs to update ->rsize and ->wsize - how???

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On Thu, 2018-09-06 at 07:12 +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 05 2018, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 8:04 PM NeilBrown <neilb@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Sep 04 2018, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, 2018-09-05 at 08:47 +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > > > With NFSv4.1, the server specifies max_rqst_sz and
> > > > > max_resp_sz in the
> > > > > reply to CREATE session.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If the client finds it needs to call nfs4_reset_session(), it
> > > > > might
> > > > > get
> > > > > smaller sizes back, so any pending read/writes would need to
> > > > > be
> > > > > resized.
> > > > > 
> > > > > However, I cannot see how the retry handling for reads/writes
> > > > > has any
> > > > > chance to change the size.  It looks like a request is broken
> > > > > up to
> > > > > match the original ->rsize and ->wsize, then those individual
> > > > > IO
> > > > > requests can be retried, but the higher level request is
> > > > > never
> > > > > re-evaluated in light of a new size.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Am I missing something, or is this not supported at present?
> > > > > If it isn't supported, any suggestions on how best to handle
> > > > > a
> > > > > reduction of the rsize/wsize ??
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Why would a sane server want to do this?
> > > 
> > > Why would a sane protocol support it? :-)
> > > 
> > > I have a network trace of SLE11-SP4 (3.0 based) talking to "a
> > > NetApp
> > > appliance".
> > > It sends a 64K write and gets NFS4ERR_REQ_TOO_BIG.
> > > It then closes the file (getting NFS4ERR_SEQ_MISORDERED even
> > > though it
> > > used a seq number 1 more than the WRITE request), and then
> > > DESTROY_SESSION and CREATE_SESSION.
> > > The CREATE_SESSION gets "max req size" of 33812 and "max resp
> > > size" of
> > > 33672.
> > > It then opens the file again and retries the 64K write....
> > > 
> > > I have a separate trace showing the initial mount where the sizes
> > > are 71680
> > > and 81920.
> > > 
> > > I don't have a trace where it stops working, but reportedly
> > > writes work
> > > smoothly for some hours after a mount, but then suddenly stop
> > > working.
> > > 
> > > The CREATE_SESSION *call* requests I see have the small (32K)
> > > sizes, but
> > > presumably they are the result of a previous CREATE_SESSION reply
> > > giving
> > > a small value.
> > > 
> > > I just had a thought.
> > > If one session is shared by two "struct nfs_server" with
> > > different
> > > ->rsize or ->wsize, then the session might get set up with the
> > > smaller
> > > size, and the mount using the larger size will get confused.
> > > In 3.0 (and even 3.10) nfs4_init_session() limits the requested
> > > session
> > > parameters to ->rsize and ->wsize.
> > > That changed in 18aad3d552c7.
> > > 
> > > Maybe I just need to remove that code from nfs4_init_session().
> > > I'll give it a try.
> > > 
> > 
> > Neil, does the code have this commit?
> > 
> > commit 033853325fe3bdc70819a8b97915bd3bca41d3af
> > Author: Olga Kornievskaia <kolga@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date:   Wed Mar 8 14:39:15 2017 -0500
> > 
> >     NFSv4.1 respect server's max size in CREATE_SESSION
> > 
> >     Currently client doesn't respect max sizes server returns in
> > CREATE_SESSION.
> >     nfs4_session_set_rwsize() gets called and server->rsize,
> > server->wsize are 0
> >     so they never get set to the sizes returned by the server.
> > 
> >     Signed-off-by: Olga Kornievskaia <kolga@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >     Signed-off-by: Anna Schumaker <Anna.Schumaker@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > NeilBrown
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion.
> The kernel doesn't have that patch, but I don't think it is relevant.
> The ->rsize does have a suitable value - it isn't zero.
> The problem is that the session limit appears to change, and the
> client
> doesn't adjust to the change.
> 
> My current theory is that the client actually requested the change,
> though on behalf of a different filesystem using the same session.
> 

So perhaps the right thing to do then, is to advertise a session max
response/reply size of NFS_MAX_FILE_IO_SIZE +
max(nfs41_maxread_overhead,nfs41_maxwrite_overhead) and just expect the
server negotiate that value down if it needs to?

-- 
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer, Hammerspace
trond.myklebust@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx






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