Re: question: re-try of operations in PNFS

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On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Trond Myklebust
<trondmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-05-23 at 09:25 -0400, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Rick Macklem <rmacklem@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
>> > [good stuff snipped]
>> > > Upstream kernel. But I'm arguing that there shouldn't be a need
>> > > to
>> > > specify a dataserver_timeo because it shouldn't timeout at all
>> > > just
>> > > like MDS operations.
>> >
>> > If/when the server is providing mirrored DSs, I've found this
>> > timeout useful
>> > in the FreeBSD client since it allows the client to detect a DS
>> > failure.
>> > It can then report the failure to the MDS via LayoutReturn (or
>> > another one
>> > on NFSv4.2 which I can't remember the name of since I haven't done
>> > 4.2;-).
>> >
>> > For non-mirrored DSs, the only thing I can think of (I've never
>> > seen this) would
>> > be some sort of network partitioning such that the client can't
>> > reach the DS but
>> > can reach the MDS.
>> >
>> > I have no idea if this is relevant to Linux, but thought I'd
>> > mention it, just in case.
>> > [more stuff snipped]
>>
>> Isn't retrying makes the implementation not spec compliant?
>
> Replaying a request would not be spec compliant. Playing new requests
> is perfectly fine (e.g. after picking up a new layout or redirecting
> the I/O to the MDS).

I see you are right. The request to the MDS is a "new request" as it
uses a different filehandle.

> Historically, I seem to remember that at one point we introduced a 15s
> timeout on I/O requests to the DS in order to allow fast failover of
> the pNFS client when the DS was down or unresponsive. I'm not sure
> whether or not that mechanism still exists and whether it is what you
> are seeing here.

Then I'd guess it probably is that and the timeout now is 10s.
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