On Wed, 2017-11-15 at 13:40 +0000, Trond Myklebust wrote: > On Tue, 2017-11-14 at 17:06 -0600, Joshua Watt wrote: > > After some additional testing on version 2, I realized that 1) my > > test > > setup was bad (Doh!) and 2) using remount isn't really an ideal > > method > > for setting the "serverfailed" mount flag. The reason being that > > any > > userspace remount is going to touch the file system and probably > > invoke > > some RPCs for inode validation as such. If the server is truly > > dead, > > these RPCs will have to time out before the flag could actually be > > set. > > This not only takes a long time, but will probably also fail, > > causing > > the remount to fail and not set the flag, defeating the purpose. > > Why? There should be no reason to have to revalidate the path in > order > to change mount options on a mount point. I figured this out... the revalidation is not required for the mount(2) syscall when remounting. However, libmount tries to do a few file system checks that do required validation. You can convince it to skip these checks like so: mount -c 172.16.9.0:/ /tmp/nfsmount -o remount,serverfailed The "-c" prevents canonicalizing the mount path (meaning you must provide the canonical path on the command line), and you have to specify the "block device" (e.g. "172.16.9.0:/") to prevent it doing some fstatat() checks on the mount path while parsing through mtab. It's annoying you can't do the easier: mount /tmp/nfsmount -o remount,serverfailed but that's not the kernels fault. > > > This patch set works around this by exposing the failed server flag > > in > > debugfs. In addition, the flag now applies at the nfs_client level > > (instead of the nfs_server). Setting the flag will cancel all RPCs > > in > > the client, as well as all nfs_servers attached to it. This ensures > > that > > you get all the mounts, even when dealing with submounts that cross > > remote device boundaries. This is also where the nosharecache > > option > > applying to nfs_clients becomes useful... it will prevent sharing > > between other explicit mount calls, but submounts will all still > > share a > > nfs_client (and fail together). > > > > Obviously, debugfs is not a permanent solution for this, so some > > discussion needs to be had on how this will be administered "in the > > real > > world" (I think "remount" is off the table). > > > > We're not adding any APIs to debugfs. That's a deal breaker... Sure. Is the mount option still the best way forward then, or are there other options to be explored? > > -- > Trond Myklebust > Linux NFS client maintainer, PrimaryData > trond.myklebust@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html