On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 08:50:12AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote: > On Tue, Jul 19 2016, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:26:43PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote: > >> I now think this was a mistaken idea. > >> > >> If a filesystem is exported with the "mountpoint" or "mp" option, it > >> should only be exported if the directory is a mount point. The > >> intention is that if there is a problem with one filesystem on a > >> server, the others can still be exported, but clients won't > >> incorrectly see the empty directory on the parent when accessing the > >> missing filesystem, they will see clearly that the filesystem is > >> missing. > >> > >> It is easy to handle this correctly for NFSv3 MOUNT requests, but what > >> is the correct behavior if a client already has the filesystem mounted > >> and so has a filehandle? Maybe the server rebooted and came back with > >> one device missing. What should the client see? > >> > >> The "dev_missing" code tries to detect this case and causes the server > >> to respond with silence rather than ESTALE. The idea was that the > >> client would retry and when (or if) the filesystem came back, service > >> would be transparently restored. > >> > >> The problem with this is that arbitrarily long delays are not what > >> people would expect, and can be quite annoying. ESTALE, while > >> unpleasant, it at least easily understood. A device disappearing is a > >> fairly significant event and hiding it doesn't really serve anyone. > > > > It could also be a filesystem disappearing because it failed to mount in > > time on a reboot. > > I don't think "in time" is really an issue. Boot sequencing should not > start nfsd until everything in /etc/fstab is mounted, has failed and the > failure has been deemed acceptable. > That is why nfs-server.services has "After= local-fs.target" Yeah, I agree, that's the right way to do it. I believe the old behavior would be forgiving of misconfiguration here, though, which means there's a chance somebody would witness a failure on upgrade. Maybe the chance is small. --b. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html