Anna Schumaker who reviewed my client side session trunking patchset, wants a full featured version of both the client and the server session trunking pieces before accepting the session trunking feature upstream. To that end, I want to implement the server mountd V4ROOT processing of an fs_locations configuration to satisfy an fs_locations request on the pseudo fs. The forwarded message is from an email stream between Bruce, Chuck and I concerning the server pseufo fs fs_locations configuration that I’m now sharing with the list. Some background: The recent "NFSV4.1,2 session trunking” Version-5 patch set sent to the list notes (in patch 00/10): The pseudo-fs GETATTR(fs_locations) probe session trunking was tested against a Linux server with a pseudo-fs export stanza (e.g. a stanza with the fsid=0 or fsid=root export option) and a replicas= export option (replicas=<path1>@<server1>:<path2>@<server2>..) Note that this configuration is for testing only. A future patchset will add the replicas= configuration to the NFSEXP_V4ROOT nfsd and mountd processing. There are several ideas on how to accomplish mountd/V4ROOT fs_locations configuration in the forwarded message. See inline. > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Configuring fs_locations on Linux upstream server > Date: May 6, 2016 at 4:31:00 PM EDT > To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: "Adamson, Andy" <William.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxx> > > >> On May 6, 2016, at 4:16 PM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 02:20:12PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote: >>> Seems like when a server does not return a list, that is >>> information the client can use: basically, there is no >>> ability to do any session trunking. It has to be set up >>> explicitly; is that a bad thing, operationally? >> >> I like the idea of it being opt in on the server. >> >> Suppose the server transparently starts advertising all available >> addresses for session trunking. It's not hard to imagine cases where >> that would go wrong. E.g., maybe the server has the odd wireless or >> 100Mb or other interface that happens to work but that's slow. Then >> somebody upgrades their server and performance goes down and it may take >> them a while to figure out why. Whereas if they'd had to opt in they'd >> probably have avoided advertising an inappropriate interface. Or at >> least they'd have a better chance of figuring out that turning on >> trunking was what caused the problem. >> >> I'd rather not force people to export "/" explicitly, though. It's fine >> for testing, but: >> >> - I don't think we give a way to do an explicit V4ROOT export, >> so they'd be exposing their entire root partition. We could >> fix that, but >> - the pseudofs just seems to me like something people shouldn't >> normally have to think about. It's a protocol implementation >> detail, I'd rather hide it. It'd be to easy to configure it a >> little wrong, I think. >> >> We can still do this by adding a replicas= option to the / export, but >> we can let rpc.mountd do that internally instead of making the admin add >> it to /etc/exports. >> >> But then you still need a way for the admin to tell rpc.mountd to cook >> up the replicas= option..... I'm not sure what that should look like. Idea 1: extra syntax in /etc/exports >> Maybe some extra syntax in /etc/exports, but what do they need to give >> us--just one list of IP addresses? Chuck, any ideas? Idea 2: xattr attached to “/" > > How about using the same approach used for junctions: > put the list in an xattr attached to / ? mountd can > extract that when the kernel asks for help satisfying > a GETATTR(fs_locations) on V4ROOT. Idea 3: new /etc/ config file > > Or it could be put in a separate config file in /etc. > You might want to specify more than just the i/f list > here; for instance, the security policy for the > pseudofs, or a constant fsid UUID, among other things. API to update the i/f list. This is not about where to hold fs_locations config info, but rather how to insert the (changed) info into the running system. > > Also, I suggested to Andy earlier: > >> I find myself leaning towards mechanisms that are easy >> both for admins and for programs (ie, an API). Perhaps >> one day you might want to add a command that updates the >> i/f list from the scripts in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts, >> for instance. >> >> As part of an ifup: >> >> nfspfs add <addr> >> >> and ifdown: >> >> nfspfs remove <addr> >> >> I wrote some Python code to manipulate entries in >> /etc/exports, now found in fedfs-utils. It's icky. > > > I think we should move away from "edit this file > and save it, then restart rpc.xyzpdq". Build some > command line interfaces for this. > > And as you have suggested many times: separate > policy from mechanism. /etc/exports is the > mechanism. > > -- > Chuck Lever Bruce - do you have a preference between #1 and #2 or #3 (or another idea?) Thanks —>Andy��.n��������+%������w��{.n�����{��w���jg��������ݢj����G�������j:+v���w�m������w�������h�����٥