On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 09:51:46PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:19:59PM +0200, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote: > > 2015-09-18 20:40 GMT+02:00 J. Bruce Fields <bfields@xxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > On Sat, Sep 05, 2015 at 12:27:10PM +0200, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote: > > >> Automatic Inheritance (AI) allows changes to the acl of a directory to > > > In the above "file" sometimes means "any object" and somethings "a > > > non-directory". I can sort it out, but more consistent terminology > > > would help. > > > > Okay, I'll fix it. > > > > >> Linux does not have a way of creating files without setting the file > > >> permission bits, so all files created inside a directory with > > >> RICHACL_AUTO_INHERIT set will have the RICHACL_PROTECTED flag set. This > > >> effectively disables Automatic Inheritance. > > >> > > >> Protocols which support creating files without specifying permissions > > >> can explicitly clear the RICHACL_PROTECTED flag after creating a file > > >> and reset the file masks to "undo" applying the create mode; see > > >> richacl_compute_max_masks(). They should set the RICHACL_DEFAULTED > > >> flag. This is a workaround; a mechanism that would allow a process to > > >> indicate to the kernel to ignore the create mode when there are > > >> inherited permissions would fix this problem. > > > > > > Also, as you know: current nfsd has no way to create files without > > > setting permissions. And if we were to implement that it's unclear how > > > many clients would actually use it (Windows clients are rare). And of > > > course Samba doesn't have the interfaces it would need. > > > > > > I think we should just drop this for now. The rest of the richacl stuff > > > is still useful without it. > > > > Samba will hack around it and adjust the ACL after the create; that's > > still better than not having Automatic Inheritance. Windows uses AI > > all the time so AI is more important for Samba than for NFSv4. > > Oh, OK, that makes sense. Even just giving them a place to store the > bits would be better than nothing. So, ignore my objection there.... Oh, and Reviewed-by: J. Bruce Fields <bfields@xxxxxxxxxx> --b. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html