Hi, we ran into this when opening about a dozen "xterm ...&" in an ~/.xinitrc on a diskless client with /var mounted with NFS. The xterms popup one after another and sometimes it takes up to 7 or 8 seconds until they are all available. This works without any noticeable delay as long as /var was exported/mounted with NFSv3. After switching to NFSv4 the delay showed up. It's caused by the utempter processes called by xterm that are trying to write (and thus lock) to /var/log/wtmp in parallel. Making some little test with a c program doing nothing but "fcntl (fd, F_SETLKW, &lck);" with "lck.l_type = F_WRLCK" it turned out that executing ten instances of this program on a NFSv3 share work within one second, while on a NFSv4 share about 5 or 6 return immediately, the remaining finish after up to 3 seconds. The more instances we exec the more are delayed and the delays are getting bigger. With NFSv4 shares this always happens. If the server exports with NFSv3, it matters which value for vers= the client uses. We mounted the same nfs3-export once with "vers=3" and once with "vers=4.0" on the same client. The test on the vers=3 mount shows no delays even with 20 parallel runs, the vers=4.0 mount has the delays. I guess this is some kind of flodding protection for parallel operations, but can it be tweaked on the server or the client side somehow? Apart from the xinitrc setting we have some other (weird :-)) scenarions where this delay are ugly and we would be happy to get rid of them (while still using NFSv4). cu, Frank -- Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner Web: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/ Lehrstuhl f. Bioinformatik Mail: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/m/ LMU, Amalienstr. 17 Phone: +49 89 2180-4049 80333 Muenchen, Germany Fax: +49 89 2180-99-4049 * Rekursion kann man erst verstehen, wenn man Rekursion verstanden hat. * -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html