Re: [PATCH v1 07/12] xprtrdma: Don't provide a reply chunk when expecting a short reply

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On 7/12/2015 9:38 PM, Chuck Lever wrote:
Hi Sagi-


On Jul 12, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Sagi Grimberg <sagig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 7/9/2015 11:42 PM, Chuck Lever wrote:
Currently Linux always offers a reply chunk, even for small replies
(unless a read or write list is needed for the RPC operation).

A comment in rpcrdma_marshal_req() reads:

Currently we try to not actually use read inline.
Reply chunks have the desirable property that
they land, packed, directly in the target buffers
without headers, so they require no fixup. The
additional RDMA Write op sends the same amount
of data, streams on-the-wire and adds no overhead
on receive. Therefore, we request a reply chunk
for non-writes wherever feasible and efficient.

This considers only the network bandwidth cost of sending the RPC
reply. For replies which are only a few dozen bytes, this is
typically not a good trade-off.

If the server chooses to return the reply inline:

  - The client has registered and invalidated a memory region to
    catch the reply, which is then not used

If the server chooses to use the reply chunk:

  - The server sends a few bytes using a heavyweight RDMA WRITE for
    operation. The entire RPC reply is conveyed in two RDMA
    operations (WRITE_ONLY, SEND) instead of one.

Pipelined WRITE+SEND operations are hardly an overhead compared to
copying chunks of data.


Note that both the server and client have to prepare or copy the
reply data anyway to construct these replies. There's no benefit to
using an RDMA transfer since the host CPU has to be involved.

I think that preparation (posting 1 or 2 WQEs) and copying
chunks of data of say 8K-16K might be different.

Two points that are probably not clear from my patch description:

1. This patch affects only replies (usually much) smaller than the
    client’s inline threshold (1KB). Anything larger will continue
    to use RDMA transfer.

2. These replies are constructed in the RPC buffer by the server,
    and parsed in the receive buffer by the client. They are not
    simple data copies on either endpoint.

Think NFS GETATTR: the server is gathering metadata from multiple
sources, and XDR encoding it in the reply send buffer. The data
is not copied, it is manipulated before the SEND.

The client then XDR decodes the received stream and scatters the
decoded results into multiple in-memory data structures.

Because XDR encoding/decoding is involved, there really is no
benefit to an RDMA transfer for these replies.

I see. Thanks for the clarification.

Reviewed-By: Sagi Grimberg <sagig@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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