Re: [PATCH 1/2] nfs-service: Added the starting of gssproxy

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On 09/22/2014 06:34 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 05:14:05PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 09/22/2014 04:44 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 03:43:09PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/22/2014 03:26 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:20:07 -0400
>>>>> Steve Dickson <steved@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Added the gssproxy.service to both the Wants= and
>>>>>> Atfers= lines, before the rpc-svcgssd.service. There
>>>>>> are  ConditionPathExists= lines in the rpc-svcgssd.service
>>>>>> unit which will stop the rpc.svcgssd daemon from
>>>>>> starting when the gssproxy daemon is already running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Steve Dickson <steved@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>  systemd/nfs-server.service | 5 +++--
>>>>>>  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/systemd/nfs-server.service b/systemd/nfs-server.service
>>>>>> index 2fa7387..c740fa2 100644
>>>>>> --- a/systemd/nfs-server.service
>>>>>> +++ b/systemd/nfs-server.service
>>>>>> @@ -2,12 +2,13 @@
>>>>>>  Description=NFS server and services
>>>>>>  Requires= network.target proc-fs-nfsd.mount rpcbind.target
>>>>>>  Requires= nfs-mountd.service
>>>>>> -Wants=rpc-statd.service nfs-idmapd.service rpc-gssd.service
>>>>>> rpc-svcgssd.service +Wants=rpc-statd.service nfs-idmapd.service 
>>>>>> +Wants=rpc-gssd.service  
>>>>>>  Wants=rpc-statd-notify.service
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  After= network.target proc-fs-nfsd.mount rpcbind.target
>>>>>> nfs-mountd.service After= nfs-idmapd.service rpc-statd.service
>>>>>> -After= rpc-gssd.service rpc-svcgssd.service
>>>>>> +After= rpc-gssd.service gssproxy.service rpc-svcgssd.service
>>>>>>  Before= rpc-statd-notify.service
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  Wants=nfs-config.service
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you really need to insure that the modules are loaded before
>>>>> any of the server services are started, perhaps adding a unit file that
>>>>> exec's modprobe and has "Before: gssproxy.service rpc-svcgssd.service"
>>>>> in it ?
>>>> I really don't think its needed... From my testing it appears 
>>>> gssproxy is always being started and rpc.svcgssd is not... 
>>>
>>> Huh.  Well rpc-svcgssd.service has var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount as both
>>> "Requires=" and "After=", so rpc-svcgssd.service will never run
>>> without first running var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount, which will load
>>> sunrpc.  But I don't see where auth_rpcgss is getting loaded.  And I
>>> don't see what ensures anything happening before gssproxy runs.
>> It happens during the mount on the client and when the server
>> is started. 
>>
>>>
>>> We want to make sure your testing's not just getting lucky on the
>>> startup order.
>> The reason it working is because rpc.gssd is being started on the server 
>> these days for callbacks and the After= line in rpc-svcgssd.service is being 
>> executed before the ConditionPathExists which cause rpc.svcgssd not to start.
> 
> nfs-utils$ grep After systemd/rpc-svcgssd.service 
> After=var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount
> After=gssproxy.service
> After=nfs-config.service
> 
> There doesn't seem to be an After= line referring to rpc.gssd.
No, why should there be? There is After= line referring to rpc.gssd
in nfs-server.service

grep After systemd/nfs-server.service 
After= network.target proc-fs-nfsd.mount rpcbind.target nfs-mountd.service
After= nfs-idmapd.service rpc-statd.service
After= rpc-gssd.service rpc-svcgssd.service
After=nfs-config.service

So when the server starts,rpc.gssd will start and rpc.svcgssd will start
if gssproxy is not enable and there is a key tab. 

> 
>> So when gssproxy.service does it's "Before=nfs-secure.service nfs-secure-server.service"
>> line everything is loaded before gssproxy start... 
> 
> That line only makes gss-proxy start before those other things.
Right, which will load the sunrpc modules.

> 
>> I'm think gssproxy.service just needs to the put the Wants and After=
>> var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount lines, instead of that Before line.. 
> 
> That would make sure sunrpc's loaded, but not auth_rpcgss.
On the client side the mount -o sec=krb5? loads auth_rpcgss module.
Maybe the loading of nfsd loads the module? But I don't think that
module has to be loaded for any of the gss daemons (gssd, svcgssd or
gssproxy) to start successfully...

 
> 
>>>> Plus, from my understanding...  loading module from a service 
>>>> file is a big no no! People were having problems with
>>>> way back when... 
>>>
>>> Any pointers?  Google's not finding me anything.
>> Search the the Fedora bz's when systemd first came out... 
> 
> All I can find is:
> 
> 	https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699040#c16
> 
> 	Btw afaik modules should be loaded via autoloading based on bus
> 	information, or via /etc/modules-load.d/*.conf. and unloading a
> 	module from the kernel should not be done except for debugging
> 	purposes so loading all these modules is it really necessary?
> 
> Which I agree with--modules should normally load on demand when we need
> them, and we should have an explanation for exceptions.
Yes, this was the conversation I was referring to.. Thank you 
for digging it out.. 

> 
> But here we have a pretty reasonable explanation (we need to know
> on startup whether a certain module has a certain feature, and we have
> to modprobe to do that).  I don't see any blanket prohibition against
> loading modules.
Lets talk with the systemd people to see what they say...

steved.

> 
> OK, and in 702707 there's a request for support of the monolithic kernel
> case, but that's easy, we just allow the modprobe to fail in that case.
> 
> --b.
> 
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