On 08/11/13 09:30, Myklebust, Trond wrote: > > On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:21, Steve Dickson <SteveD@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> >> On 07/11/13 17:29, Myklebust, Trond wrote: >>>> Again, what servers, today, support this type of secure state establishment? >>>>> Having this type of security in the client I think is good... but if >>>>> the client is not talking with any servers that support this type >>>>> of security, why not have a way to turn it off? >>> I don't understand. Servers are _required_ to support RPCSEC_GSS with >>> krb5 by both RFC3530 and RFC5661. AUTH_SYS is, in fact, the optional >>> flavour. >> Agreed... 100% of the NFSv4 server have to support RPCSEC_GSS. its mandated >> by the spec(s). >> >>> >>> The problem here is that sometimes kerberos isn't configured by the >>> admin, who then expects that it shouldn't be necessary to run rpc.gssd >>> or rpc.svcgssd. It is necessary because we first try the >>> mandatory-to-implement and secure RPCSEC_GSS/krb5i flavour before >>> falling back to the less secure AUTH_SYS... >> Sometimes? Its generally not.. from my experience... >> >> Basically how I interpret this last paragraph, is we will be requiring >> admins set up secure mounts for them to avoid the 15sec delay mount >> times... aka... running a daemon that will say "no, no there is no >> security here" while spewing of log messages when Kerberos is not setup... > > No. All we are requiring is that they run rpc.gssd. Even when they do not want any secure mounts at all? What is that justification? steved. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html