On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 11:11 -0700, Ben Greear wrote: +AD4- On 10/17/2013 11:05 AM, Myklebust, Trond wrote: +AD4- +AD4- On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 10:35 -0700, Ben Greear wrote: +AD4- +AD4APg- On 10/15/2013 11:29 AM, Ben Greear wrote: +AD4- +AD4APgA+- Is 'umount -f' supposed to always work, even if the file server +AD4- +AD4APgA+- goes away? +AD4- +AD4APgA+- +AD4- +AD4APgA+- I have a user's system that just hangs forever in this case. +AD4- +AD4APgA+- +AD4- +AD4APgA+- Could be local changes we have made, but I'm curious about +AD4- +AD4APgA+- the expected behaviour before I go digging too deep... +AD4- +AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4APg- Any input on this? I don't mind trying to fix it, but I +AD4- +AD4APg- would like to know how it is supposed to work. +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- 'umount -f' has always been iffy. It just kills any pending RPC calls +AD4- +AD4- +AF8-before+AF8- trying to unmount. Since the unmount itself can trigger +AD4- +AD4- writeback flushes (and hence more RPC calls), the trace you are seeing +AD4- +AD4- is indeed possible. +AD4- +AD4- I tried 'umount -f -l', and that also does not work. +AD4- +AD4- Any ideas on how to fix this properly? 'umount -f -l' should normally work to at least hide the gruesome details of your hanging superblock. I'm guessing that you're falling afoul of the path revalidation that Chuck alluded to. There should already be a fix for that problem with the path+AF8-umountat() patches that went into Linux 3.12-rc1. Are those failing to help? -- Trond Myklebust Linux NFS client maintainer NetApp Trond.Myklebust+AEA-netapp.com www.netapp.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html