Re: [PATCH v4 0/5] nfsd + hfsplus: introduce generalized version of NFSv4 ACLs <-> POSIX ACLs mapping algorithms

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On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 09:34:50PM +0400, Vyacheslav Dubeyko wrote:
> On May 9, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> > 
> > How does this make sense? There is no lossless mapping of NFSv4 acls
> > into POSIX acls; the latter doesn't have any equivalent of the DENY
> > aces so you cannot represent the full set of acls that can be set
> > using MacOS on the same filesystem.
> > 
> > Shouldn't you rather be looking at the richacl patch sets?
> > 
> 
> Yes, I understand the nature of such mapping and impossibility of
> mapping NFSv4 ACLs to POSIX ACLs in some cases. But, as I understand,
> the richacl patch set is not mainline yet.

Neither are these patches.  You could pick up the richacl patches and
work on them instead.  That might be more work, I don't know, but the
result would certainly be more useful, to many more people....

> And even if it will be in mainline then a user can have choice to use
> POSIX ACLs or richacls.

I actually kinda like the idea of allowing people to use either model
and translating automatically between them.  But it is complicated, and
I'm not convinced it's necessary.

> So, we need to map NFSv4 ACLs <-> POSIX ACLs in hfsplus for the case
> of using POSIX ACLs model. I think that to have such mapping is better
> than to have nothing.

So, in the "better than nothing" spirit, I'll take a look at these, but
I would still rather we get the richacl stuff done....

--b.

> Moreover, a user can use HFS+ filesystem with
> using POSIX ACLs only under Linux. Thereby, the generalization of
> mapping NFSv4 ACLs <-> POSIX ACLs makes sense, from my viewpoint.
> 
> With the best regards, Vyacheslav Dubeyko.
> 
> > -- Trond Myklebust Linux NFS client maintainer
> > 
> > NetApp Trond.Myklebust@xxxxxxxxxx www.netapp.com
> 
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