On 10/23/12 11:15 PM, Nix wrote: > On 24 Oct 2012, Eric Sandeen uttered the following: > >> On 10/23/12 3:57 PM, Nix wrote: >>> The only unusual thing about the filesystems on this machine are that >>> they have hardware RAID-5 (using the Areca driver), so I'm mounting with >>> 'nobarrier': >> >> I should have read more. :( More questions follow: >> >> * Does the Areca have a battery backed write cache? > > Yes (though I'm not powering off, just rebooting). Battery at 100% and > happy, though the lack of power-off means it's not actually getting > used, since the cache is obviously mains-backed as well. > >> * Are you crashing or rebooting cleanly? > > Rebooting cleanly, everything umounted happily including /home and /var. > >> * Do you see log recovery messages in the logs for this filesystem? > > My memory says yes, but nothing seems to be logged when this happens > (though with my logs on the first filesystem damaged by this, this is > rather hard to tell, they're all quite full of NULs by now). > > I'll double-reboot tomorrow via the faulty kernel and check, unless I > get asked not to in the interim. (And then double-reboot again to fsck > everything...) > >>> the full set of options for all my ext4 filesystems are: >>> >>> rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,journal_checksum,journal_async_commit,nobarrier,quota, >>> usrquota,grpquota,commit=30,stripe=16,data=ordered,usrquota,grpquota >> >> ok journal_async_commit is off the reservation a bit; that's really not >> tested, and Jan had serious reservations about its safety. > > OK, well, I've been 'testing' it for years :) No problems until now. (If > anything, I was more concerned about journal_checksum. I thought that > had actually been implicated in corruption before now...) It had, but I fixed it AFAIK; OTOH, we turned it off by default after that episode. >> * Can you reproduce this w/o journal_async_commit? > > I can try! Ok, fair enough. If the BBU is working, nobarrier is ok; I don't trust journal_async_commit, but that doesn't mean this isn't a regression. Thanks for the answers... onward. :) -Eric -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html