You ignored my main point, I was talking about the server side, my point was that there is nothing to build on on the serve side since the pNFS Linux server is not happening. Marc. From: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@xxxxxxxxxx> To: Marc Eshel <eshel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Peng Tao <bergwolf@xxxxxxxxx>, bhalevy@xxxxxxxxxx, Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Garth Gibson <garth@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Fred Isaman <iisaman@xxxxxxxxxx>, linux-nfs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Matt Benjamin <matt@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 11/29/2011 04:08 PM Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] nfs41: allow layoutget at pnfs_do_multiple_writes On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 15:49 -0800, Marc Eshel wrote: > The only 1 cent that I can add to this argument is that I was led to > believe by you and others that Linux kernel don't add functionality on the > client side that is not supported on the server side. Last time I made > this point I was told that it is ok if they are of by a version or two. > You made it clear that this is no longer true and that the Linux client > and server are now independent of each other. I spent time working on the > server side believing that the client and server will progress more or > less together, disappointed to find out that it is not the case any more. > Marc. I don't know how to manage layout segments in a way that meets the pNFS goals of scalability and performance, and neither you nor the pNFS spec have told me how to do this. If IBM wants a client that implements layout segments, then it is _your_ responsibility to: A. Convince me that it is an implementable part of the spec. B. Provide me with an implementation that deals all with the concerns that I have. IOW: nobody has ever promised IBM that the community would do all your client work for you. EMC, NetApp and Panasas have implemented (most of) the bits that they cared about; any bits that they haven't implemented and that you care about are up to you. -- Trond Myklebust Linux NFS client maintainer NetApp Trond.Myklebust@xxxxxxxxxx www.netapp.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html