RE: [PATCH 2/2] nfs41: handle BLK_LAYOUT CB_RECALL_ANY

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Hi, Trond,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trond Myklebust [mailto:Trond.Myklebust@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 2:40 AM
> To: Jim Rees
> Cc: Benny Halevy; Peng Tao; linux-nfs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Peng, Tao; nfsv4 list
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] nfs41: handle BLK_LAYOUT CB_RECALL_ANY
> 
> On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 14:31 -0400, Jim Rees wrote:
> > Trond Myklebust wrote:
> >
> >   I don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying, but I have yet to
> >   see a single server side implementation of CB_RECALL_ANY, let alone any
> >   numbers that indicate performance or responsiveness problems resulting
> >   from our existing client-side implementation.
> >
> >   I therefore find it hard to understand why optimising this particular
> >   code is such a high priority, or why a patch that is adding per-file
> >   layoutreturns to initiate_bulk_draining() is going to help anything at
> >   all.
> >
> > Testing between the linux block layout client and the EMC block layout
> > server revealed a deadlock when the server had handed out some number of
> > layouts and couldn't hand out any more.  So now the EMC block layout server
> > implements CB_RECALL_ANY.  So yes, this solves a real world problem, and
> > yes, there is a server that implements this.
> >
> > We had some discussions at the time, and I don't remember if those were on
> > the linux-nfs list or in some other forum.  We decided that the client was
> > in the best position to decide which layouts were no longer needed, so we
> > needed some way for the server to tell the client to return some layouts
> > without specifying which ones.  CB_RECALL_ANY seemed custom-made for this
> > purpose, so we used it.
> >
> > I don't think it would be appropriate for the server to recall all layouts
> > when it only needs some of them back.
> 
> As I said previously: the current client implementation deals with
> CB_RECALL_ANY by calling initiate_file_draining(), which forgets _all_
> layouts. If that is what we want to continue to use, then sending
> layoutreturn with LAYOUTRETURN4_ALL is appropriate.
> Otherwise, please fix the client to be more selective (in which case
> LAYOUTRETURN4_FILE may be more appropriate) and please remember to
> provide performance numbers to justify the need for optimisation.
OK, fair enough. I will work on the selective layoutreturn approach when I have the time slot. And I agree it is of low priority.

Thanks,
Tao

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