Re: NFS/TCP timeout sequence

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On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 10:04 -0400, Chuck Lever wrote: 
> On Jul 7, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 18:11 +1000, Max Matveev wrote: 
> >> I've had to look at the way NFS/TCP does its timeouts and backoff
> >> and it does not make a lot of sense to me: according to the
> >> following paragram from nfs(5) on Fedora 14 (I'm using Fedora 14
> >> because it has more text then the same page in nfs-utils):
> >> 
> >>      timeo=n    The time (in tenths of a second) the  NFS  client  waits
> >>                 for a response before it retries an NFS request. If this
> >>                 option is not specified, requests are retried  every  60
> >>                 seconds  for NFS over TCP.  The NFS client does not per‐
> >>                 form any kind of timeout backoff for NFS over TCP.
> >> 
> >> but if I try the mount with timeo=20,retrans=7 then I'm getting
> >> retransmits which are 2, 4, 6, 8, 2, 4, 6, 8 seconds apart, i.e.
> >> there is a) linear backoff and b) the backoff is not long enough to
> >> let the complete sequence of 7 retransmits run its course.
> > 
> > Sigh... Firstly, 2 second timeouts are complete lunacy when using a
> > protocol that guarantees reliable delivery, such as TCP does. Anyone who
> > tries it deserves exactly what they get: poor unreliable performance.
> 
> We shouldn't allow such low settings.
> 
> > Secondly, the _other_ fix for this problem is to fix the documentation.
> 
> How is the documentation incorrect?  We do not want any kind of back-off for stream transports.

The documentation states that we don't do back off, but as Max points
out, in practice the kernel does a linear back off (and has always done
so).

Anyway, why shouldn't we back off if the server is failing to respond?

-- 
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer

NetApp
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