RE: 4.1 no-pnfs mount option?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trond Myklebust [mailto:Trond.Myklebust@xxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 5:45 PM
> To: Muntz, Daniel
> Cc: matt@xxxxxxxxxxxx; rees@xxxxxxxxx; 
> androsadamson@xxxxxxxxx; linux-nfs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
> bhalevy@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: 4.1 no-pnfs mount option?
> 
> On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 19:53 -0500, Daniel.Muntz@xxxxxxx wrote: 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Trond Myklebust [mailto:Trond.Myklebust@xxxxxxxxxx] 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:15 AM
> > > To: Matt W. Benjamin
> > > Cc: Muntz, Daniel; rees@xxxxxxxxx; androsadamson@xxxxxxxxx; 
> > > linux-nfs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Benny Halevy
> > > Subject: Re: 4.1 no-pnfs mount option?
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 13:46 -0500, Matt W. Benjamin wrote: 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > Isn't by mount a plausible way to select for pnfs 
> > > independent of debugging?  Is it assured that a client 
> > > administrator would never reasonably wish to do this?
> > > 
> > > "Why would an administrator never want to do this?" is 
> not a helpful
> > > question.
> > > 
> > > A more useful question is "what reason would you possibly have for
> > > overriding the server's request that you do pNFS when 
> your client has
> > > pNFS support?" What makes pNFS so special that we must allow
> > > administrators to do this on a per-mount basis?
> > 
> > By the same logic, why should a user be allowed to select 
> which version of NFS they use for mounting when the server 
> has a perfectly reasonable way of negotiating it?  Getting to 
> choose v2 vs. v3 vs. v4 seems like much less of a distinction 
> than choosing between pNFS and no pNFS.  Frankly, it never 
> even occurred to me that there wouldn't be a mount option to 
> make this choice.  Enabling/disabling the layout driver 
> doesn't fit the existing model of choosing mount behavior, 
> and is a big hammer--it's all or nothing.
> > 
> > Anyway, here's a use case: I'm working at an 
> HPC/gas+oil/satellite data site.  We have an awesome pNFS 
> server for our big data and I want to access my big data with 
> pNFS.  We have another server for homedirs, some big data, 
> and other stuff.  Some mounts are fine with pNFS, others are 
> abysmal.  So, I want to mount some directories with pNFS, and 
> some without pNFS, on the same client, independent of the 
> server configuration.
> 
> mount -t nfs -overs=4,minorversion=0 foo:/ /bar
> 
> Done... Any more questions?

Several, but I'll stick to one rhetorical.  Does NFSv4.1 have any features, other than pNFS, that are not in 4.0?

> 
> -- 
> Trond Myklebust
> Linux NFS client maintainer
> 
> NetApp
> Trond.Myklebust@xxxxxxxxxx
> www.netapp.com
> 
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