On 2 Oct 2010, J. Bruce Fields stated: > On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 11:41:42PM +0100, Nix wrote: >> I mean, yes, we can work around it by killing rpc.mountd and restarting >> it as soon as the server has booted, but, well, yuck, no thanks, too >> much of a kludge. I'll have a concentrated hunt for the bug soon (once I >> can reproduce it without rebooting the single largest machine I have >> root on!) > > OK, thanks for the persistence, and apologies that I can't think of > anything off the top of my head (and haven't had the time to try and > look more closely). I'll look forward to anything more you can figure > out.... This is still happening. Just by chance (while checking to see if adding unique fsids to every line fixed it: no) I spotted something interesting, which I think points to the cause. You don't need to repeatedly kill rpc.mountd and restart it at all to fix things. You just have to run exportfs many times! Here are dumps of /proc/fs/nfs/exports on boot (after a single exportfs -ra), then after a subsequent one, then another: # Version 1.1 # Path Client(Flags) # IPs /var/state/munin mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=17,uuid=b5cb6e6b:ed9d4345:abd64535:f56e2519) /usr/share/xplanet mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=9,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/share/httpd/htdocs/munin mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=18,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/share/xemacs mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=8,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/share/texlive mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=7,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/share/nethack mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=10,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/lib/X11/fonts mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=12,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/share/clamav mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=19,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/doc mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=5,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/src mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,no_subtree_check,fsid=16,uuid=333950aa:8e3f440a:bc94d0cc:4adae198) # Version 1.1 # Path Client(Flags) # IPs /var/state/munin mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=17,uuid=b5cb6e6b:ed9d4345:abd64535:f56e2519) /usr/share/xplanet mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=9,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /etc/shai-hulud mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=15,uuid=6c0f7fa7:d6c24054:bff33a87:8460bdc7) /usr/share/httpd/htdocs/munin mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=18,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/share/xemacs mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=8,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /home/.spindle.srvr.nix/nix/Graphics/Photos mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,no_subtree_check,fsid=3,uuid=78c50891:aaac452b:8b4fa769:9565a21e) /usr/share/texlive mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=7,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/share/nethack mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=10,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /var/log.real mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=14,uuid=b5cb6e6b:ed9d4345:abd64535:f56e2519) /usr/lib/X11/fonts mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=12,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/share/clamav mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=19,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /home/.spindle.srvr.nix mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,no_subtree_check,fsid=1,uuid=95bd22c2:253c456f:8e36b6cf:b9ecd4ef) /usr/doc mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=5,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/src mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,no_subtree_check,fsid=16,uuid=333950aa:8e3f440a:bc94d0cc:4adae198) /usr/info mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=6,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) # Version 1.1 # Path Client(Flags) # IPs /var/state/munin mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=17,uuid=b5cb6e6b:ed9d4345:abd64535:f56e2519) /usr/share/xplanet mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=9,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /etc/shai-hulud mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=15,uuid=6c0f7fa7:d6c24054:bff33a87:8460bdc7) /usr/share/httpd/htdocs/munin mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=18,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/share/xemacs mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=8,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /home/.spindle.srvr.nix/nix/Graphics/Photos mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,no_subtree_check,fsid=3,uuid=78c50891:aaac452b:8b4fa769:9565a21e) /usr/share/texlive mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=7,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/share/nethack mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=10,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /var/log.real mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=14,uuid=b5cb6e6b:ed9d4345:abd64535:f56e2519) /home/.spindle.srvr.nix/nix/Mail/nnmh/spambox-verified mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,no_subtree_check,fsid=2,uuid=52d386c2:b6384034:8bd4e199:5e3237bb) /usr/lib/X11/fonts mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=12,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/share/clamav mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=19,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /home/.spindle.srvr.nix mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,no_subtree_check,fsid=1,uuid=95bd22c2:253c456f:8e36b6cf:b9ecd4ef) /pkg/non-free mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,no_subtree_check,fsid=11,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /usr/doc mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=5,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) /home/.spindle.srvr.nix fold.srvr.nix(rw,root_squash,async,wdelay,no_subtree_check,fsid=1,uuid=95bd22c2:253c456f:8e36b6cf:b9ecd4ef) /usr/src mutilate.wkstn.nix(rw,no_root_squash,async,wdelay,no_subtree_check,fsid=16,uuid=333950aa:8e3f440a:bc94d0cc:4adae198) /usr/info mutilate.wkstn.nix(ro,root_squash,async,wdelay,fsid=6,uuid=5cccc224:a92440ee:b4450447:3898c2ec) If exportfs is not correctly exporting everything to the kernel when run, that would pretty much explain the cause of spontaneous -ESTALEs on reboot, because rebooting clears the mount table: if a single exportfs is failing to properly refill it, mountd is going to say -ESTALE about everything it forgot to put back in. I'll scatter debugging through exportfs and try to see what it's doing wrong. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html