On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:16:57 -0400 Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 13:55:25 -0400 > Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:17:01 +1100 > > Neil Brown <neilb@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > If I don't have any network configured (except loop-back), and try an NFSv3 > > > mount, then it fails quickly: > > > > > > > > > .... > > > mount.nfs: portmap query failed: RPC: Remote system error - Network is unreachable > > > mount.nfs: Network is unreachable > > > > > > > > > If I try the same thing with a NFSv4 mount, it times out before it fails, > > > making a much longer delay. > > > > > > This is because mount.nfs doesn't do a portmap lookup but just leaves > > > everything to the kernel. > > > The kernel does an 'rpc_ping()' which sets RPC_TASK_SOFTCONN. > > > So at least it doesn't retry after the timeout. But given that we have a > > > clear error, we shouldn't timeout at all. > > > > > > Unfortunately I cannot see an easy way to fix this. > > > > > > The place where ENETUNREACH is in xs_tcp_setup_socket. The comment there > > > says "Retry with the same socket after a delay". The "delay" bit is correct, > > > the "retry" isn't. > > > > > > It would seem that we should just add a 'goto out' there if RPC_TASK_SOFTCONN > > > was set. However we cannot see the task at this point - in fact it seems > > > that there could be a queue of tasks waiting on this connection. I guess > > > some could be soft, and some not. ??? > > > > > > So: An suggestions how to get a ENETUNREACH (or ECONNREFUSED or similar) to > > > fail immediately when RPC_TASK_SOFTCONN is set ??? > > > > > > > > > This affects people who upgrade from openSUSE11.2 (which didn't support v4 > > > mounts) to openSUSE11.3 (which defaults to v4) and who use network-manager > > > (which configures networks late) and have NFS mounts in /etc/fstab with > > > either explicit IP addresses or host names that can be resolved without the > > > network. > > > This config will work because when the network comes up, network-manager will > > > re-run the 'init.d/nfs' script. However since 11.3 there is an unpleasant > > > pause before boot completes. > > > > > > > Took me a few tries to get an ENETUNREACH error but I see the same hang > > you do. For the record I was able to get one by not configuring an IPv6 > > addr on the box and attempting to mount an IPv6 address. > > > > Interestingly while I was trying to reproduce it, I ended up > > reproducing an EHOSTUNREACH error by trying to mount a IPv6 host to > > which I didn't have a route. That error returns quickly from the > > kernel. Maybe we can solve this simply by treating ENETUNREACH the same > > as EHOSTUNREACH in this situation? > > > > I'm not quite sure exactly how to make that happen, but it seems like > > reasonable behavior. > > > > Sigh, nothing's ever easy in the RPC layer. Please bear with my > scatterbrained analysis... > > There's a bit of difference at the socket layer between those two cases. > xs_tcp_finish_connecting calls this to connect the socket: > > kernel_connect(sock, xs_addr(xprt), xprt->addrlen, O_NONBLOCK); > > ...in the ENETUNREACH case, this returns immediately with the error. In > EHOSTUNREACH case, it returns EINPROGRESS and then the sk_error_report > handles the rest. Fine...we can emulate the similar behavior, but... That all seems to make sense and helps complete the picture, however ... > > Then what happens is that xs_tcp_send_request gets called again to try > to resend the packet. In the EHOSTUNREACH case, that returns > EHOSTUNREACH which eventually causes an rpc_exit with that error. In > the ENETUNREACH case that returns EPIPE, which makes the state machine > move next to call_bind and the whole thing starts over again. This confuses me. Why would xs_tcp_send_request (aka ->send_request) get called before the connect has succeeded? Can you make sense of that? Thanks, NeilBrown > > I'm still not sure what the right approach is here. The fact that > attempting to send on the socket in this case gives us an EPIPE makes > it tough to handle this case the same way as EHOSTUNREACH. > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html