Hi Trond, I'm currently investigating a bug report related to NFS for an internal project, and I wanted to get your input as I've been able to reproduce it on an upstream 2.6.36-rc7 kernel on Power7 hardware. I have tracked it down to a side effect of the nfs_sillyrename function. I'm not very familiar with the inner workings of the nfs layer, is the purpose of the sillyrename function to work around a limitation of nfs if a file is unlinked while in use? It seems to me that if the sillyrename function is indeed necessary that we should not reveal the temporary filename it produces to userspace, but I wonder if that might create issues (say if userspace thinks a directory is empty when it acutally has a sillyrename file in it)? Basically I want to know if the behaviour I've outlined below is the expected behaviour of NFS, or if you considder this a bug? The gist of the original bug report is that running the syscalls test suite from the Linux Test Project on an nfsroot would emit warnings on the recvmsg01 test, however that test never emits warnings when run individually. The particular warning in question is: tst_rmdir(): rmobj(/tmp/ltp-Url7aJLwfH/recZ7XHW6) failed: unlink(/tmp/ltp-Url7aJLwfH/recZ7XHW6/.nfs00000000019f12d80000002e) failed; errno=16: Device or resource busy However removing a number of preceding tests would instead produce a warning like the following: recvmsg01 0 TWARN : tst_rmdir(): rmobj(/tmp/ltp-eenc4irncU/recRpxeMd) failed: lstat(/tmp/ltp-eenc4irncU/recRpxeMd/.nfs00000000400a0e9a0000023c) failed; errno=2: No such file or directory Scott (on CC), the original reporter produced that second behaviour by commenting out the first 475 tests and all the tests after recvmsg01. I've been able to produce it over 50% of the time with just the following two test cases: foo echo recvmsg01 recvmsg01 Presumably this is a race and the exact conditions necessary to reproduce it will vary depending on network, hardware, etc. Scott reported that this behaviour only began after transitioning from 2.6.31 to 2.6.32 - I haven't checked 2.6.31 to determine if the issue may have existed and just have been harder to produce or if 2.6.31 really did not exhibit this behaviour. The recvmsg01 testcase sets up a temporary directory, performs a mkstemp to generate a temporary file within that directory which it promptly unlinks and creates a unix socket with that filename to perform it's tests. That all seems to work fine. When it cleans up it kills it's server, unlinks that unix socket then calls tst_rmdir() which recursively removes (by calling it's rmobj function) the temporary directory and it's contents. The race seems to be that when the socket is unlinked it's still in use, so the nfs layer performs a sillyrename on it to asynchronously unlink it, but before that completes the tst_rmdir function has already read the contents of the directory and spotted the .nfs00000... file from the sillyrename, which depending on the exact timing of the unlink will cause one of the above two warnings. A somewhat filtered (grep -v permission) output of the race after activating nfs_debug is below: setup: NFS: lookup(recRpxeMd/udsockOxmZAh) NFS: create(0:d/1074400921), udsockOxmZAh NFS: nfs_fhget(0:d/1074400922 ct=1) NFS: dentry_delete(recRpxeMd/udsockOxmZAh, 0) NFS: nfs_update_inode(0:d/1074400921 ct=1 info=0x7d7f) NFS: isize change on server for file 0:d/1074400921 NFS: unlink(0:d/1074400921, udsockOxmZAh) NFS: safe_remove(recRpxeMd/udsockOxmZAh) NFS: dentry_delete(recRpxeMd/udsockOxmZAh, 18) NFS: nfs_update_inode(0:d/1074400921 ct=1 info=0x7d7f) NFS: isize change on server for file 0:d/1074400921 NFS: lookup(recRpxeMd/udsockOxmZAh) NFS: mknod(0:d/1074400921), udsockOxmZAh ... cleanup: NFS: unlink(0:d/1074400921, udsockOxmZAh) NFS: silly-rename(recRpxeMd/udsockOxmZAh, ct=3) NFS: trying to rename udsockOxmZAh to .nfs00000000400a0e9a0000023c NFS: lookup(recRpxeMd/.nfs00000000400a0e9a0000023c) NFS: dentry_delete(recRpxeMd/.nfs00000000400a0e9a0000023c, 10) NFS: nfs_update_inode(0:d/1074400921 ct=1 info=0x7d7f) NFS: isize change on server for file 0:d/1074400921 NFS: nfs_update_inode(0:d/3758724786 ct=2 info=0x1fdff) NFS: nfs_update_inode(0:d/1074400921 ct=1 info=0x7d7f) NFS: dentry_delete(recRpxeMd/.nfs00000000400a0e9a0000023c, 102) NFS: dentry_delete(recRpxeMd/smtAmobkv, 8) NFS: dentry_delete(recRpxeMd/smtAmobkv, 8) NFS: unlink(0:d/1074400921, smtAmobkv) NFS: safe_remove(recRpxeMd/smtAmobkv) NFS: dentry_delete(recRpxeMd/smtAmobkv, 18) NFS: nfs_update_inode(0:d/1074400921 ct=1 info=0x7d7f) NFS: mtime change on server for file 0:d/1074400921 NFS: isize change on server for file 0:d/1074400921 NFS: lookup(recRpxeMd/.nfs00000000400a0e9a0000023c) NFS: dentry_delete(recRpxeMd/.nfs00000000400a0e9a0000023c, 0) NFS: dentry_delete(bin/recvmsg02, 8) Cheers, -Ian -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html