Re: whither NFS umount?

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On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:21:00 -0400
Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 15:52 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:44:09 -0400
> > Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 15:18 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I think the part that causes problems is having userspace do this. In
> > > > theory, if the kernel were in charge of sending the UMNT, then it's not
> > > > really a problem since it knows when to do it. If we have code that
> > > > sends a UMNT already, why not do a best-effort UMNT call from the
> > > > kernel when we tear down the sb?
> > > 
> > > Purely for the pleasure of allowing the server to maintain inaccurate
> > > statistics about who is currently mounting what? I think not...
> > > 
> > > You can get far more accurate results by replacing the MNT/UMNT state
> > > counter with a purely server-based scheme to track who accessed one or
> > > more files on each exported partition in the past 5 minutes or so. That
> > > would even work with NFSv4...
> > > 
> > 
> > True, but for better or worse, UMNT is part of the protocol. It seems
> > like we ought to do our best to implement it, even if it is
> > fundamentally flawed.
> > 
> 
> UMNTALL is part of the same protocol, and yet we have never implemented
> that. Just because something is documented, it doesn't mean we have to
> do it...
> 
> The bottom line is that UMNT doesn't do what it advertises itself as
> doing, and so we should not waste space supporting it in the kernel. We
> shouldn't do so in userspace either.
> 

Fair enough. Like Chuck I don't have strong feelings about it, other
than seeing no need to continue shipping umount.nfs.

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Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxxx>
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