Dave, Here is one more test on a big ext4 disk file: 16k 39.7 MB/s 32k 54.3 MB/s 64k 63.6 MB/s 128k 72.6 MB/s 256k 71.7 MB/s rsize ==> 512k 71.7 MB/s 1024k 72.2 MB/s 2048k 71.0 MB/s 4096k 73.0 MB/s 8192k 74.3 MB/s 16384k 74.5 MB/s It shows that >=128k client side readahead is enough for single disk case :) As for RAID configurations, I guess big server side readahead should be enough. #!/bin/sh file=/mnt/ext4_test/zero BDI=0:24 for rasize in 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 8192 16384 do echo $rasize > /sys/devices/virtual/bdi/$BDI/read_ahead_kb echo readahead_size=${rasize}k fadvise $file 0 0 dontneed ssh p9 "fadvise $file 0 0 dontneed" dd if=$file of=/dev/null bs=4k count=402400 done Thanks, Fengguang On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 03:49:16PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote: > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:39:40PM +0800, Dave Chinner wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 02:12:47PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 01:22:15PM +0800, Dave Chinner wrote: > > > > What I'm trying to say is that while I agree with your premise that > > > > a 7.8MB readahead window is probably far larger than was ever > > > > intended, I disagree with your methodology and environment for > > > > selecting a better default value. The default readahead value needs > > > > to work well in as many situations as possible, not just in perfect > > > > 1:1 client/server environment. > > > > > > Good points. It's imprudent to change a default value based on one > > > single benchmark. Need to collect more data, which may take time.. > > > > Agreed - better to spend time now to get it right... > > I collected more data with large network latency as well as rsize=32k, > and updates the readahead size accordingly to 4*rsize. > > === > nfs: use 2*rsize readahead size > > With default rsize=512k and NFS_MAX_READAHEAD=15, the current NFS > readahead size 512k*15=7680k is too large than necessary for typical > clients. > > On a e1000e--e1000e connection, I got the following numbers > (this reads sparse file from server and involves no disk IO) > > readahead size normal 1ms+1ms 5ms+5ms 10ms+10ms(*) > 16k 35.5 MB/s 4.8 MB/s 2.1 MB/s 1.2 MB/s > 32k 54.3 MB/s 6.7 MB/s 3.6 MB/s 2.3 MB/s > 64k 64.1 MB/s 12.6 MB/s 6.5 MB/s 4.7 MB/s > 128k 70.5 MB/s 20.1 MB/s 11.9 MB/s 8.7 MB/s > 256k 74.6 MB/s 38.6 MB/s 21.3 MB/s 15.0 MB/s > rsize ==> 512k 77.4 MB/s 59.4 MB/s 39.8 MB/s 25.5 MB/s > 1024k 85.5 MB/s 77.9 MB/s 65.7 MB/s 43.0 MB/s > 2048k 86.8 MB/s 81.5 MB/s 84.1 MB/s 59.7 MB/s > 4096k 87.9 MB/s 77.4 MB/s 56.2 MB/s 59.2 MB/s > 8192k 89.0 MB/s 81.2 MB/s 78.0 MB/s 41.2 MB/s > 16384k 87.7 MB/s 85.8 MB/s 62.0 MB/s 56.5 MB/s > > readahead size normal 1ms+1ms 5ms+5ms 10ms+10ms(*) > 16k 37.2 MB/s 6.4 MB/s 2.1 MB/s 1.2 MB/s > rsize ==> 32k 56.6 MB/s 6.8 MB/s 3.6 MB/s 2.3 MB/s > 64k 66.1 MB/s 12.7 MB/s 6.6 MB/s 4.7 MB/s > 128k 69.3 MB/s 22.0 MB/s 12.2 MB/s 8.9 MB/s > 256k 69.6 MB/s 41.8 MB/s 20.7 MB/s 14.7 MB/s > 512k 71.3 MB/s 54.1 MB/s 25.0 MB/s 16.9 MB/s > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > 1024k 71.5 MB/s 48.4 MB/s 26.0 MB/s 16.7 MB/s > 2048k 71.7 MB/s 53.2 MB/s 25.3 MB/s 17.6 MB/s > 4096k 71.5 MB/s 50.4 MB/s 25.7 MB/s 17.1 MB/s > 8192k 71.1 MB/s 52.3 MB/s 26.3 MB/s 16.9 MB/s > 16384k 70.2 MB/s 56.6 MB/s 27.0 MB/s 16.8 MB/s > > (*) 10ms+10ms means to add delay on both client & server sides with > # /sbin/tc qdisc change dev eth0 root netem delay 10ms > The total >=20ms delay is so large for NFS, that a simple `vi some.sh` > command takes a dozen seconds. Note that the actual delay reported > by ping is larger, eg. for the 1ms+1ms case: > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 7.361/8.325/9.710/0.837 ms > > > So it seems that readahead_size=4*rsize (ie. keep 4 RPC requests in > flight) is able to get near full NFS bandwidth. Reducing the mulriple > from 15 to 4 not only makes the client side readahead size more sane > (2MB by default), but also reduces the disorderness of the server side > RPC read requests, which yeilds better server side readahead behavior. > > To avoid small readahead when the client mount with "-o rsize=32k" or > the server only supports rsize <= 32k, we take the max of 2*rsize and > default_backing_dev_info.ra_pages. The latter defaults to 512K, and can > be explicitly changed by user with kernel parameter "readahead=" and > runtime tunable "/sys/devices/virtual/bdi/default/read_ahead_kb" (which > takes effective for future NFS mounts). > > The test script is: > > #!/bin/sh > > file=/mnt/sparse > BDI=0:15 > > for rasize in 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 8192 16384 > do > echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches > echo $rasize > /sys/devices/virtual/bdi/$BDI/read_ahead_kb > echo readahead_size=${rasize}k > dd if=$file of=/dev/null bs=4k count=1024000 > done > > CC: Dave Chinner <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > CC: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@xxxxxxxxxx> > Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@xxxxxxxxx> > --- > fs/nfs/client.c | 4 +++- > fs/nfs/internal.h | 8 -------- > 2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-) > > --- linux.orig/fs/nfs/client.c 2010-02-26 10:10:46.000000000 +0800 > +++ linux/fs/nfs/client.c 2010-02-26 11:07:22.000000000 +0800 > @@ -889,7 +889,9 @@ static void nfs_server_set_fsinfo(struct > server->rpages = (server->rsize + PAGE_CACHE_SIZE - 1) >> PAGE_CACHE_SHIFT; > > server->backing_dev_info.name = "nfs"; > - server->backing_dev_info.ra_pages = server->rpages * NFS_MAX_READAHEAD; > + server->backing_dev_info.ra_pages = max_t(unsigned long, > + default_backing_dev_info.ra_pages, > + 4 * server->rpages); > server->backing_dev_info.capabilities |= BDI_CAP_ACCT_UNSTABLE; > > if (server->wsize > max_rpc_payload) > --- linux.orig/fs/nfs/internal.h 2010-02-26 10:10:46.000000000 +0800 > +++ linux/fs/nfs/internal.h 2010-02-26 11:07:07.000000000 +0800 > @@ -10,14 +10,6 @@ > > struct nfs_string; > > -/* Maximum number of readahead requests > - * FIXME: this should really be a sysctl so that users may tune it to suit > - * their needs. People that do NFS over a slow network, might for > - * instance want to reduce it to something closer to 1 for improved > - * interactive response. > - */ > -#define NFS_MAX_READAHEAD (RPC_DEF_SLOT_TABLE - 1) > - > /* > * Determine if sessions are in use. > */ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html