On 12/20/24 9:16 PM, J David wrote:
Hello,
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 8:51 PM Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If they can reproduce
this issue with an "in tree" file system contained in a recent upstream
Linux kernel, then we can take a look. (Or you and J. David can give it
a try).
Yes, I reproduced this behavior on ext4 with 6.11.5+bpo-amd64 from
Debian backports on completely different hardware.
Then I set up another NFS server on Arch (running kernel 6.12.4), and
reproduced the issue there as well.
Then, just to be sure, I went and found the instructions for building
the Linux kernel from source, built and tested both 6.12.6 and
6.13-rc3 as downloaded directly from www.kernel.org, and the issue
occurs with those as well.
Reproducing on v6.13-rc with ext4 is all that was necessary, thank you!
Additionally, I have tested every combination of FreeBSD, Linux and
OpenIndiana as client and server to confirm that FreeBSD client with
Linux server is the only case where this problem occurs.
Interesting.
Does this count as reproducing the issue with an "in tree" file system
contained in a recent upstream Linux kernel? I'm asking sincerely; I'm
so far out of my depth that I'm pretty sure there are sea monsters
swimming around down there. So I can't rule out the possibility that
I've done something wrong either in setup or testing.
During the course of this, I've gotten the reproduction down to
extracting a 2k tar file and then running "du" on the resulting
directory from the client. Doesn't matter if the file is untarred on
the FreeBSD client, the server, or another client. The tar file
contains a directory with a handful of random Javascript files from
Drupal. As far as I can tell, it has something to do with the number,
size, or names of the files. The Drupal project has three separate
directories all structured like this with the same filenames, but the
file contents vary. The issue occurs with all of them.
The Linux /etc/exports file is just:
/data 192.168.201.0/24(rw,sync)
(The production case also uses crossmnt and no_subtree_check, anonuid,
and anongid, but I eliminated those one by one to make sure they
weren't responsible.)
The corresponding fstab entry on the FreeBSD 14.2-RELEASE client is:
192.168.201.200:/data /data nfs rw,tcp,nfsv4,minorversion=2 0 0
Out of curiosity, do you see the problem recur with nfsv3 or the other
NFSv4 minor versions?
One additional thing I noticed that really blew my mind is that I can
shutdown both the client and the server, wait, power them back on, and
the issue is still there. So it's not something in RAM. That prompted
me to try "touch x" in the directory to create a new 0-length file.
The issue then goes away. Then I can "rm x" and the issue comes back.
By contrast, I can write megabytes from /dev/random into one of the
files without affecting anything; the issue stays the same.
I then tried it with all empty files using the same filenames. The
issue still occurred. Add or remove one file and the issue goes away.
I then renamed one of the files to zz.js. Issue still occurs. Renamed
it to zzz.js. Problem still occurs. Kept going until I got to
zzzzzz.js and it worked.
Finally, I got it to the point where running this in an empty mounted
directory will create the issue:
rm *.xx; for a in a b c d e f g h ; do for b in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ; do
touch $a$b.xx ; done; done; for a in 1 2 3 4 5; do touch x$a-xx.xx;
done; touch y0-xxxxxx.xx
and this will not:
rm *.xx; for a in a b c d e f g h ; do for b in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ; do
touch $a$b.xx ; done; done; for a in 1 2 3 4 5; do touch x$a-xx.xx;
done; touch y0-xxxxxxx.xx
(The difference being one extra x in the last filename.)
It works in the other direction as well. This causes the issue:
rm *.xx; for a in a b c d e f g h ; do for b in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ; do
touch $a$b.xx ; done; done; for a in 1 2 3 4 5; do touch x$a-xx.xx;
done; touch y0-xxx.xx
This does not:
rm *.xx; for a in a b c d e f g h ; do for b in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ; do
touch $a$b.xx ; done; done; for a in 1 2 3 4 5; do touch x$a-xx.xx;
done; touch y0-xx.xx
There's a four-character window involving the length of the filenames
where 62 files in a directory causes this issue. There's a little more
to it than that; it doesn't look like you can just create 61
two-letter filenames and then one really long one and get the issue.
So I haven't found the specifics yet, but perhaps due to pure chance
this directory structure is exactly right to provoke an incredibly
obscure edge case?
Well it's likely that this is a problem with READDIR, so file content
is not going to be an issue. The file name lengths are the problem.
Also, I'm wondering what the FreeBSD client's directory readdir
arguments are (how much does it request, what are the maximum limits it
negotiates, and so on). Rick?
