Re: [PATCH v3] nfsd: disallow file locking and delegations for NFSv4 reexport

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Honestly, I don't know the usecase for re-exporting another server's
NFS export in the first place. Is this someone trying to share NFS
through a firewall? I've seen people share remote NFS exports via
Samba in an attempt to avoid paying their NAS vendor for SMB support.
(I think it's "standard equipment" now, but 10+ years ago? Not
always...) But re-exporting another server's NFS exports? Haven't seen
anyone do that in a while.

Using "only local locks for reexport" would mean that -- in cases
where different clients access the underlying export directly and
others access the re-export -- you would have 2 different sources of
"truth" with respect to locks... I have supported multiple tools that
used file or byte-range record locks in my career... And this could
easily royally hork any shared databases...

Regards,

Brian Cowan

Regards,

Brian Cowan

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On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 10:11 AM Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 29, 2024, at 9:57 AM, Martin Wege <martin.l.wege@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 5:58 PM Mike Snitzer <snitzer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> We do not and cannot support file locking with NFS reexport over
> >> NFSv4.x for the same reason we don't do it for NFSv3: NFS reexport
> >> server reboot cannot allow clients to recover locks because the source
> >> NFS server has not rebooted, and so it is not in grace.  Since the
> >> source NFS server is not in grace, it cannot offer any guarantees that
> >> the file won't have been changed between the locks getting lost and
> >> any attempt to recover/reclaim them.  The same applies to delegations
> >> and any associated locks, so disallow them too.
> >>
> >> Add EXPORT_OP_NOLOCKSUPPORT and exportfs_lock_op_is_unsupported(), set
> >> EXPORT_OP_NOLOCKSUPPORT in nfs_export_ops and check for it in
> >> nfsd4_lock(), nfsd4_locku() and nfs4_set_delegation().  Clients are
> >> not allowed to get file locks or delegations from a reexport server,
> >> any attempts will fail with operation not supported.
> >
> > Are you aware that this virtually castrates NFSv4 reexport to a point
> > that it is no longer usable in real life?
>
> "virtually castrates" is pretty nebulous. Please provide a
> detailed (and less hostile) account of an existing application
> that works today that no longer works when this patch is
> applied. Only then can we count this as a regression report.
>
>
> > If you really want this,
> > then the only way forward is to disable and remove NFS reexport
> > support completely.
>
> "No locking" is already the way NFSv3 re-export works.
>
> At the moment I cannot remember why we chose not to go with
> the "only local locking for re-export" design instead.
>
>
> --
> Chuck Lever
>
>





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