On Sun, 26 May 2024 at 13:28, Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, 2024-05-24 at 19:11 +0200, Dan Shelton wrote: > > On Wed, 15 May 2024 at 23:46, Steve Dickson <steved@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > Hey! > > > > > > On 5/14/24 5:57 PM, Dan Shelton wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > > > > > Solaris, Windows and libnfs NFSv4 clients support RFC2224 URLs, which > > > > provide platform-independent paths where resources can be mounted > > > > from, i.e. nfs://myhost//dir1/dir2 > > > > > > > > Could Linux /sbin/mount.nfs4 support this too, please? > > > Why? What does it bring to the table that the Linux client > > > does already do via v4... with the except, of course, public > > > filehandles, which is something I'm pretty sure the Linux > > > client will not support. > > > > This is NOT for Linux only. Every OS has its own system to describe > > shares, and not all are compatible. URLs are portable. > > > > > > > > So again why? WebNFS died with Sun... Plus RFC2224 talks > > > about v2 and v3... How does it fit in a V4 world. > > > > This is NOT about WebNFS or SUN, this is to make the job of admins easier. > > > > I think Steve is just trying to get at the use-case for this. Who is > using nfs:// URLs in their environment, and why? IOW, how will adding > this make things better? > > Then there are the more practical questions: > > - will this require kernel support? If I mount using a nfs:// URL, > should I expect to see that in /proc/self/mounts, instead of a > host:/export ? > > - do you need support for public filehandles? Those were largely > ignored by most NFS implementors, including Linux. That opens an > entirely separate can of worms. > > I'm happy to consider patches that add support for this (including > documentation), but I'd need to understand why this is a material > improvement over the traditional ":/" syntax. One syntax across all platforms? The ms-nfs41-client (ref below) has a parser in nfs_mount.exe, so I think it would just plug into the existing /sbin/mount.nfs4 Dan -- Dan Shelton - Cluster Specialist Win/Lin/Bsd ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Roland Mainz <roland.mainz@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 at 18:58 Subject: [Ms-nfs41-client-devel] ANN: NFSv4.1 filesystem client Windows driver binaries for Windows 10/11 for testing, 2024-05-28 ... To: <ms-nfs41-client-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Hi! ---- I've created a set of test binaries for the NFSv4.1 filesystem client driver for Windows 10/11, based on https://github.com/kofemann/ms-nfs41-client (commit id #0cb44281d376cd6aa0e43a402153405b7b32ddd8, git bundle in tarball), for testing and feedback (download URL in "Download" section below). Please send comments, bugs, test reports, complaints etc. to the MailMan mailing list at https://sourceforge.net/projects/ms-nfs41-client/lists/ms-nfs41-client-devel # 1. What is this ? NFSv4.1 client and filesystem driver for Windows 10/11 # 2. Features: - Full NFSv4.1 protocol support - idmapper (mapping usernames and uid/gid values between server and client) - Support for custom ports (NFSv4 defaults to TCP port 2049, this client can use different ports per mount) - Support for nfs://-URL * Why ? nfs://-URLs are crossplatform, portable and Character-Encoding independent descriptions of NFSv4 server resources (exports). - including custom ports and raw IPv6 addresses - nfs://-URL conversion utility (/usr/bin/nfsurlconv) to convert URLs, including non-ASCII/Unicode characters in mount path - Support ssh forwarding, e.g. mounting NFSv4 filesystems via ssh tunnel - Support for long paths (up to 4096 bytes), no Windows MAXPATH limit - Unicode support - UNC paths - IPv6 support in UNC paths - /sbin/nfs_mount prints UNC paths in Win32+Cygwin formats - Cygwin bash+ksh93 support UNC paths, e.g. cd //derfwnb4966@2049/nfs4/bigdisk/mysqldb4/ - IPv6 support - IPv6 address within '[', ']' (will be converted to *.ipv6-literal.net) - Windows ACLs - Win32 C:\Windows\system32\icacls.exe - Cygwin /usr/bin/setfacl+/usr/bin/getfacl - Windows Explorer ACL dialog - SFU/Cygwin support, including: - uid/gid - Cygwin symlinks - Custom primary group support - Supports primary group changes in the calling process/thread (via |SetTokenInformation(..., TokenPrimaryGroup,...)|), e.g. if the calling process/threads switches the primary group in its access token then the NFSv4.1 client will use that group as GID for file creation. - newgrp(1)/sg(1)-style "winsg" utilty to run cmd.exe with different primary group, e.g. $ winsg [-] -g group [-c command | /C command] # - Software compatibility: - Any NFSv4.1 server (Linux, Solaris, Illumos, FreeBSD, nfs4j, ...) - All tools from Cygwin/MinGW - Visual Studio - VMware Workstation (can use VMs hosted on NFSv4.1 filesystem) # 3. Requirements: - Windows 10 (32bit or 64bit) or Windows 11 - Cygwin: - Cygwin versions: - 64bit: >= 3.5.3 (or 3.6.x-devel) - 32bit: >= 3.3.6 - Packages (required): cygwin cygwin-devel cygrunsrv cygutils cygutils-extra bash bzip2 coreutils getent gdb grep hostname less libiconv libiconv2 pax pbzip2 procps-ng sed tar time util-linux wget - Packages (recommended): libnfs (for /usr/bin/nfs-ls) make git gcc-core gcc-g++ clang mingw64-i686-clang mingw64-x86_64-clang dos2unix unzip # 4. Download: $ mkdir -p ~/download $ cd ~/download $ wget 'http://www.nrubsig.org/people/gisburn/work/msnfs41client/releases/testing/msnfs41client_cygwin_binaries_20240528_12h15m_git0cb4428.tar.bz2' $ openssl sha256 "msnfs41client_cygwin_binaries_20240528_12h15m_git0cb4428.tar.bz2" SHA2-256(msnfs41client_cygwin_binaries_20240528_12h15m_git0cb4428.tar.bz2)= e3d7adeef8b28161410bb7095036043aa587190488bf9247a00b881c19dbcc0d # 5. Installation (as "Administrator"): $ (cd / && tar -xf ~/download/msnfs41client_cygwin_binaries_20240528_12h15m_git0cb4428.tar.bz2 ) $ /sbin/msnfs41client install <REBOOT> # 6. Deinstallation: $ (set -o xtrace ; cd / && tar -tf ~/download/msnfs41client_cygwin_binaries_20240528_12h15m_git0cb4428.tar.bz2 | while read i ; do [[ -f "$i" ]] && rm "$i" ; done) <REBOOT> # 7. Usage: # Option a) # * Start NFSv4 client daemon as Windows service (requires # "Adminstrator" account): $ sc start ms-nfs41-client-service # * Notes: # - requires "Adminstrator" account, and one nfsd client daemon is # used for all users on a machine. # - The "ms-nfs41-client-service" service is installed by default as # "disabled" and therefore always requires a "manual" start (e.g. # $ sc start ms-nfs41-client-service #) # - note that DOS devices are virtualised per LSA Logon, so each Logon # needs to do a separare nfs_mount.exe to mount a NFSv4 share # - nfsd_debug.exe will run as user "SYSTEM", but will do user # impersonation for each request # - stopping the service will NOT unmount filesystems, and due to a # bug a reboot is required to restart and mount any NFSv4 # filesystems again # * Administration: # - Follow new log messages: $ tail -f '/var/log/ms-nfs41-client-service.log' # - Query service status: $ sc queryex ms-nfs41-client-service # - Query service config: $ sc qc ms-nfs41-client-service # - Start service automatically: # (nfsd_debug.exe will be started automagically, but mounts are # not restored): $ sc config ms-nfs41-client-service start=auto # - Start service manually (default): $ sc config ms-nfs41-client-service start=disabled # Option b) # Run the NFSv4 client daemon manually: # # - run this preferably as "Administrator", but this is not a requirement # - requires separate terminal $ /sbin/msnfs41client run_daemon # Mount a filesystem and use it $ /sbin/nfs_mount -o rw N 10.49.20.110:/net_tmpfs2 Successfully mounted '10.49.20.110@2049' to drive 'N:' $ cd /cygdrive/n/ $ ls -la total 4 drwxrwxrwt 5 Unix_User+0 Unix_Group+0 100 Dec 7 14:17 . dr-xr-xr-x 1 roland_mainz Kein 0 Dec 14 13:48 .. drwxr-xr-x 3 Unix_User+197608 Unix_Group+197121 80 Dec 12 16:24 10492030 drwxr-xr-x 3 Unix_User+197608 Unix_Group+197121 60 Dec 13 17:58 directory_t drwxr-xr-x 3 Unix_User+197608 Unix_Group+197121 60 Dec 7 11:01 test2 # Unmount filesystem: $ cd ~ && /sbin/nfs_mount -d N: # OR $ cd ~ $ net use N: /delete # List mounted NFSv4.1 filesystems: $ /sbin/nfs_mount # 8. Notes: - Cygwin 32bit can be installed like this: ---- snip ---- # Install Cygwin 32bit on Windows 32 with packages required by "ms-nfs41-client" # (Windows NFSv4.1 client): # 1. Get installer from https://www.cygwin.com/setup-x86.exe # 2. Run installer with these arguments: setup-x86.exe --allow-unsupported-windows -q --no-verify --site http://ctm.crouchingtigerhiddenfruitbat.org/pub/cygwin/circa/2022/11/23/063457 -P cygwin,cygwin-devel,cygrunsrv,cygutils,cygutils-extra,bash,bzip2,coreutils,getent,gdb,grep,hostname,less,libiconv,libiconv2,pax,pbzip2,procps-ng,sed,tar,time,util-linux,wget,libnfs,make,git,dos2unix,unzip ---- snip ---- - Idmapping (including uid/gid mapping) between NFSv4 client and NFSv4 server works via /lib/msnfs41client/cygwin_idmapper.ksh, which either uses builtin static data, or /usr/bin/getent passwd and /usr/bin/getent group. As getent uses the configured name services it should work with LDAP too. This is still work-in-progress, with the goal that both NFSv4 client and server can use different uid/gid numeric values for client and server side. - UNC paths are supported, after successful mounting /sbin/nfs_mount will list the paths in Cygwin UNC format. - SIDs work, users with valid Windows accounts (see Cygwin idmapping above get their SIDs, unknown users with valid uid/gid values get Unix_User+id/Unix_Group+id SIDs, and all others are mapped to nobody/nogroup SIDs. - Workflow for nfs://-URLs: - Create nfs://-URLs with nfsurlconv, read $ nfsurlconv --man # for usage - pass URL to nfs_mount.exe like this: $ nfs_mount -o sec=sys,rw 'L' nfs://derfwnb4966_ipv4//bigdisk # - Cygwin symlinks are supported, but might require $ fsutil behavior set SymlinkEvaluation L2L:1 R2R:1 L2R:1 R2L:1 #. This includes symlinks to UNC paths, e.g. as Admin $ cmd /c 'mklink /d c:\home\rmainz \\derfwpc5131_ipv6@2049\nfs4\export\home2\rmainz' # and then $ cd /cygdrive/c/home/rmainz/ # should work - performance: All binaries are build without any optimisation, so the filesystem is much slower than it could be. - bad performance due to Windows Defender AntiVirus: Option 1: # disable Windows defender realtime monitoring # (requires Admin shell) powershell -Command 'Set-MpPreference -DisableRealtimeMonitoring 1' Option 2: Add "nfsd.exe", "nfsd_debug.exe", "ksh93.exe", "bash.exe", "git.exe" and other offending commands to the process name whitelist. - performance: Use vmxnet3 in VMware to improve performance - ACLs are supported via the normal Windows ACL tools, but on Linux require the nfs4_getfacl/nfs4_setfacl utilities to see the data. * Example 1 (assuming that Windows, Linux NFSv4 client and NFSv4 server have a user "siegfried_wulsch"): - On Windows on a NFSv4 filesystem: $ icacls myhorribledata.txt /grant "siegfried_wulsch:WD" # - On Linux NFSv4 clients you will then see this: ---- snip ---- $ nfs4_getfacl myhorribledata.txt A::OWNER@:rwatTcCy A::siegfried_wulsch@xxxxxxxxxx:rwatcy A::GROUP@:rtcy A::EVERYONE@:rtcy ---- snip ---- * Example 2 (assuming that Windows, Linux NFSv4 client and NFSv4 server have a group "cygwingrp2"): - On Windows on a NFSv4 filesystem: $ icacls myhorribledata.txt /grant "cygwingrp2:(WDAC)" /t /c # - On Linux NFSv4 clients you will then see this: ---- snip ---- $ nfs4_getfacl myhorribledata.txt A::OWNER@:rwatTcCy A::GROUP@:rtcy A:g:cygwingrp2@xxxxxxxxxx:rtcy A::EVERYONE@:rtcy ---- snip ---- - nfs_mount.exe vs. reserved ports: By default the NFSv4 server on Solaris, Illumos, Linux etc. only accepts connections if the NFSv4 client uses a "privileged (TCP) port", i.e. using a TCP port number < 1024. If nfsd.exe/nfsd_debug.exe is started without the Windows priviledge to use reserved ports, then a mount attempt can fail. This can be worked around on the NFSv4 server side - on Linux using the "insecure" export option in /etc/exports and on Solaris/Illumos using export option "resvport" (see nfs(5)). - Accessing mounts from a VMware/QEMU/VirtualBox VM using NAT requires the the "insecure" export option in /etc/exports and on Solaris/Illumos using export option "resvport" (see nfs(5)), as the NFSv4 client source TCP port will be >= 1024. # 9. Known issues: - The kernel driver ("nfs41_driver.sys") does not yet have a cryptographic signature for SecureBoot - which means it will only work if SecureBoot is turned off (otherwise $ /sbin/msnfs41client install # will FAIL!) - If nfsd_debug.exe crashes or gets killed, the only safe way to run it again requires a reboot - LDAP support does not work yet - Attribute caching is too aggressive - Caching in the kernel does not always work. For example $ tail -f ... # does not not see new data. Workaround: Use GNU tail'S $ tail --follow=name ... # Working theory is that this is related to FCB caching, see |FCB_STATE_FILESIZECACHEING_ENABLED|, as the nfs41_driver.sys kernel module does not see the |stat()| syscalls. But $ tail -f ... # always works for a momemnt if something else opens the same file. - Unmounting and then mounting the same filesystem causes issues as the name cache in nfsd*.exe is not flushed on umount, including leftover delegations. - krb5p security with AES keys do not work against the linux server, as it does not support gss krb5 v2 tokens with rotated data. - When recovering opens and locks outside of the server's grace period, client does not check whether the file has been modified by another client. - If nfsd.exe is restarted while a drive is mapped, that drive needs to be remounted before further use. - Does not allow renaming a file on top of an existing open file. Connectathon's special test op_ren has been commented out. - File access timestamps might be wrong for delegations. - Extended attributes are supported with some limitations: a) the server must support NFS Named Attributes, b) the order of listings cannot be guaranteed by NFS, and c) the EaSize field cannot be reported for directory queries of FileBothDirInformation, FileFullDirInfo, or FileIdFullDirInfo. - Win10/32bit-only: $ net use H: /delete # does not work, use $ nfs_mount -d 'H' instead # # 10. Notes for troubleshooting && finding bugs/debugging: - nfsd_debug.exe has the -d option to set a level for debug output. Edit /sbin/msnfs41client to set the "-d" option. - The "msnfs41client" script has the option "watch_kernel_debuglog" to get the debug output of the kernel module. Run as Admin: $ /sbin/msnfs41client watch_kernel_debuglog # Currently requires DebugView (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/sysinternals/downloads/debugview) to be installed. - Watching network traffic: WireShark has a command line tool called "tshark", which can be used to see NFSv4 traffic. As NFSv4 uses RPC you have to filter for RPC, and the RPC filter automatically identifies NFSv4 traffic on it's RPC id. Example for Windows: (for NFSv4 default TCP port "2049", replace "2049" with the desired port if you use a custom port ; use "ipconfig" to find the correct interface name, in this case "Ethernet0"): ---- snip ---- $ nfsv4port=2049 ; /cygdrive/c/Program\ Files/Wireshark/tshark \ -f "port $nfsv4port" -d "tcp.port==${nfsv4port},rpc" -i Ethernet0 ---- snip ---- If you are running inside a VMware VM on a Linux host it might require $ chmod a+rw /dev/vmnet0 # on VMware host, so that the VM can use "Promiscuous Mode". # 11. Source code: - Source code can be obtained from https://github.com/kofemann/ms-nfs41-client - Build instructions can be found at https://github.com/kofemann/ms-nfs41-client/tree/master/cygwin ---- Bye, Roland -- __ . . __ (o.\ \/ /.o) roland.mainz@xxxxxxxxxxx \__\/\/__/ MPEG specialist, C&&JAVA&&Sun&&Unix programmer /O /==\ O\ TEL +49 641 3992797 (;O/ \/ \O;) _______________________________________________ Ms-nfs41-client-devel mailing list Ms-nfs41-client-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ms-nfs41-client-devel -- Dan Shelton - Cluster Specialist Win/Lin/Bsd