On Tue, 16 Apr 2024, Chuck Lever wrote: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 01:43:37PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-04-15 at 17:37 +0000, Chuck Lever III wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 2024, at 1:35 PM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2024-04-15 at 17:27 +0000, Chuck Lever III wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 2024, at 1:21 PM, Petr Vorel <pvorel@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > /proc/fs/nfsd/nfsv4recoverydir started from kernel 6.8 report EINVAL. > > > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Petr Vorel <pvorel@xxxxxxx> > > > > > > --- > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > @ Jeff, Chuck, Neil, NFS devs: The patch itself whitelist reading > > > > > > /proc/fs/nfsd/nfsv4recoverydir in LTP test. I suspect reading failed > > > > > > with EINVAL in 6.8 was a deliberate change and expected behavior when > > > > > > CONFIG_NFSD_LEGACY_CLIENT_TRACKING is not set: > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure it was deliberate. This seems like a behavior > > > > > regression. Jeff? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think I intended to make it return -EINVAL. I guess that's what > > > > happens when there is no entry for it in the write_op array. > > > > > > > > With CONFIG_NFSD_LEGACY_CLIENT_TRACKING disabled, that file has no > > > > meaning or value at all anymore. Maybe we should just remove the dentry > > > > altogether when CONFIG_NFSD_LEGACY_CLIENT_TRACKING is disabled? > > > > > > My understanding of the rules about modifying this part of > > > the kernel-user interface is that the file has to stay, even > > > though it's now a no-op. > > > > > > > Does it? Where are these rules written? > > > > What should we have it do now when read and written? Maybe EOPNOTSUPP > > would be better, if we can make it just return an error? > > > > We could also make it just discard written data, and present a blank > > string when read. What do the rules say we are required to do here? > > The best I could find was Documentation/process/stable-api-nonsense.rst. > > Tell you what, you and Petr work out what you'd like to do, let's > figure out the right set of folks to review changes in /proc, and > we'll go from there. If no-one has a problem removing the file, I'm > not going to stand in the way. I don't think we need any external review for this. While the file is in /proc, it is not in procfs but in nfsdfs. So people out side the nfsd community are unlikely to care. And this isn't a hard removal. It is just a new config option that allows a file to be removed. I think we do want to completely remove the file, not just let it return an error: --- a/fs/nfsd/nfsctl.c +++ b/fs/nfsd/nfsctl.c @@ -51,7 +51,9 @@ enum { #ifdef CONFIG_NFSD_V4 NFSD_Leasetime, NFSD_Gracetime, +#ifdef CONFIG_NFSD_LEGACY_CLIENT_TRACKING NFSD_RecoveryDir, +#endif NFSD_V4EndGrace, #endif NFSD_MaxReserved @@ -1360,7 +1362,9 @@ static int nfsd_fill_super(struct super_block *sb, struct fs_context *fc) #ifdef CONFIG_NFSD_V4 [NFSD_Leasetime] = {"nfsv4leasetime", &transaction_ops, S_IWUSR|S_IRUSR}, [NFSD_Gracetime] = {"nfsv4gracetime", &transaction_ops, S_IWUSR|S_IRUSR}, +#ifdef CONFIG_NFSD_LEGACY_CLIENT_TRACKING [NFSD_RecoveryDir] = {"nfsv4recoverydir", &transaction_ops, S_IWUSR|S_IRUSR}, +#endif [NFSD_V4EndGrace] = {"v4_end_grace", &transaction_ops, S_IWUSR|S_IRUGO}, #endif /* last one */ {""} My understand of the stability rule is "if Linus doesn't hear about it, then it isn't a regression". Also known as "no harm, no foul". So if we manage the change to everyone's satisfaction, then it is perfectly OK to make the change. nfs-utils already handles a missing file fairly well - you get a D_GENERAL log message, but that is all. Petr's fix for ltp should allow it to work. I would be greatly surprised if anything else (except possibly other testing code) would care. NeilBrown