On Mon, 2023-11-20 at 01:07 +0000, Chuck Lever III wrote: > > > > On Nov 19, 2023, at 7:16 PM, Trond Myklebust > > <trondmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2023-11-18 at 15:45 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 11/18/23 12:03 PM, Chuck Lever III wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 2023, at 11:49 AM, Trond Myklebust > > > > > <trondmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2023-11-18 at 16:41 +0000, Chuck Lever III wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 2023, at 1:42 AM, Cedric Blancher > > > > > > > <cedric.blancher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 at 08:42, Cedric Blancher > > > > > > > <cedric.blancher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How owns bugzilla.linux-nfs.org? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apologies for the type, it should be "who", not "how". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the problem remains, I still did not get an account > > > > > > > creation > > > > > > > token > > > > > > > via email for *ANY* of my email addresses. It appears > > > > > > > account > > > > > > > creation > > > > > > > is broken. > > > > > > > > > > > > Trond owns it. But he's already showed me the SMTP log from > > > > > > Sunday night: a token was sent out. Have you checked your > > > > > > spam folders? > > > > > > > > > > I'm closing it down. It has been run and paid for by me, but > > > > > I > > > > > don't > > > > > have time or resources to keep doing so. > > > > > > > > Understood about lack of resources, but is there no-one who can > > > > take over for you, at least in the short term? Yanking it out > > > > without warning is not cool. > > > > > > > > Does this announcement include git.linux-nfs.org > > > > <http://git.linux-nfs.org/> and > > > > wiki.linux-nfs.org <http://wiki.linux-nfs.org/> as well? > > > > > > > > As this site is a long-time community-used resource, it would > > > > be fair if we could come up with a transition plan if it truly > > > > needs to go away. > > > > > > If you need resources and time... Please reach out... > > > > > > This is a community... I'm sure we can figure something out. > > > But please turn it back on. > > > > > > > So far, I've heard a lot of 'we should', and a lot of 'we could'. > > > > What I have yet to hear are the magic words "I volunteer to help > > maintain these services". > > I volunteer to help. I can do as much or as little as you prefer. > And I volunteer to lead an effort to either: > > a) find a replacement issue tracking service, or > > b) find a way to archive the content of the bugzilla if we agree > there is no more need for a bugzilla.linux-nfs. > > Or both. > > There is no way for us to know how much effort it takes if you > suffer in silence, my friend. The point is that email has evolved over the 18 years since I set up the very first linux-nfs.org. I have not had time to keep up with the requirements of adding support for DMARC, SPF, etc. which is why Cedric's account setup email is probably in his spam folder, assuming that the gmail server even accepted it at all. Furthermore, both the wikimedia and bugzilla instances are far from running the most recent code versions and I'm sure there are plenty of well known security holes etc to exploit. So both code bases have been needing an upgrade for a while now. Finally, the VM itself is still running RHEL/CentOS 7, and I'd like to see it migrated to a platform that is is still maintained. All these tasks would need help from the person (or people?) who volunteers to maintain the bugzilla + wiki services. Some of them would need to be 100% owned by that person, and others (like the platform upgrade) would need a lot of coordination with me. IOW: I'm not advocating either way. I can understand wanting to migrate away from the current setup to something that is maintained by someone else. However if anyone does wants to take on the job of helping to maintain the current setup, then they need to know that it will involve real work. -- Trond Myklebust Linux NFS client maintainer, Hammerspace trond.myklebust@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
