Re: Union mounts, NFS, and locking

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In message <20090714220515.GH27582@shell>, Valerie Aurora writes:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 04:36:40PM -0400, Erez Zadok wrote:
> > In message <20090714201940.GF27582@shell>, Valerie Aurora writes:
> >
> > > Okay, so my best idea for a solution is to introduce a new NFS mount
> > > option that means the server promises that the exported file system is
> > > read-only (using superblock read-only count scheme locally).  E.g.:
> > 
> > How would the server be able to guarantee that?  Are you planning to change
> > the protocol or implementation somehow?  Are you assuming that the server
> > will be running linux w/ special r/o sb support?  If so, it won't work on
> > other platforms (NFS is supposed to be interoperable in principle :-)
> > 
> > Without a protocol change, such an option (if I understood you), is at best
> > a server promise to "behave nice."
> 
> Yeah, it's just a promise, one that the NFS server shouldn't make if
> it can't implement it.  The client's sole responsibility is to fail
> gracefully if the server breaks its promise.
[...]

How would the client detect that the server broke the promise?  In theory,
your client may never know b/c it'll never send the server any
state-changing ops (e.g., creat, write, unlink).  One really ugly idea might
be for the client to try and create a dummy .nfsXXXXXX file on the server,
and if that succeds, or the error returned isn't EROFS, the client can guess
that the server's misbhaving.

Erez.
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