On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Neil Brown <neilb@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sunday July 20, chucklever@xxxxxxxxx wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Neil Brown <neilb@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >> > Any chance of pulling these out and sending them upstream now? or is >> > the IPv6 series very close to release? >> >> IPv6 is actively being worked on. I expect all these will be >> available in the next 6 months. However this specific set of patches >> is dependent on some extensive changes (like, a complete >> re-implementation of mount's portmap client). Pulling them out now >> would be a lot of work and I'm not sure it's worth the distraction to >> the IPv6 effort, which essentially needed to be complete last month. > > Fair enough.... > Last month hasn't finished yet, has it? That would be awkward. There > is still lots to be done in June :-) > >> >> I've expected some problems in this area, and the only thing I can >> hope for is that people will diligently report problems. If you have >> specific problems with the text-based implementation, I'd like to hear >> about them so we can clear them up as quickly as possible. I never >> claimed that work is complete yet. > > Just that "portmap doesn't respond to UDP" causes problems. > >> >> > I'd just like to get the regression fixed. >> >> Me too. >> >> Is it not sufficient to use connected UDP sockets in both user space >> and the kernel, and fix the kernel to return EPROTONOTSUPP where >> appropriate? > > Well I just noticed that it is now "fixed" in the kernel by defaulting > "mount_server" to use TCP when "nfs_server" is using TCP. > commit 259875efed06d6936f54c9a264e868937f1bc217 Ah, that one. Yes, I should have remembered that. That indeed was a regression from the behavior of legacy mounts. As far as I can tell, if I try to mount with "proto=udp" and the server doesn't support it, the mount command isn't supposed to switch to TCP automatically, it's supposed to fail the mount. If I try to mount but don't specify any transport protocol, it is supposed to default to UDP for mountd and TCP for NFS. In that case the kernel should punt when the default protocols don't work and let user space work out the right transports and retry. > However I would like nfs-utils to work well with all released kernels > (or at least those release this millennium) where possible. So while > a kernel fix is good, it isn't a panacea. The workaround for older nfs-utils has been to specify "mountproto=udp/tcp" explicitly. It's a laudable goal to have completely interchangeable parts, but it seems like we pay a bit of a price in this case. And besides, distributors are supposed to be adding value by ensuring that the parts work together (and known bugs have been addressed) before they ship... :-) They can certainly add patches like this one without having them go upstream. I'm mainly concerned that the enterprise kernels work well. The less stable kernels like Fedora and Debian that use whatever is the latest version are expected to have some issues. >> A healing balm for those who would like to use late model nfs-utils >> releases but don't want the hassle of the remaining bugs in the >> text-based mounts may be in order. It would be easy to add a >> configure switch to use only the legacy ABI interface for mount.nfs. > > While tempting, I don't think that is a good idea. As you say, we > want people to report bugs. > Maybe if we had a switch to use the legacy ABI (the inverse of your > short-lived "-s") that might have helped. But it is too late to > bother with that now I think. 'string options' mostly works and is > clearly the right way forward. Let's go there. > How about this? > It always does "probe_bothports" before a mount so we get the retry > heuristics that are useful, but the probe_port does *not* ping the > actual service, as that can consume a precious reserved port, and > shouldn't be needed. I think the extra port probe is only needed if "proto=" is not specified, and only for text-based mounts on pre .27 kernels, and only if the server's portmapper doesn't support UDP at all (which is a somewhat rare case I think). Lots of "ifs". So, yes, this will address it, but I'm not terribly happy about the additional complexity in mount.nfs that will eventually not be needed when the kernel is working completely correctly. I feel like this breaks the whole architecture of letting the kernel try the defaults, and then user space does the recovery if that doesn't work. I think this works around the problem of having a server who's portmapper listens only on TCP. The underlying portmap client in the mount command (and in the kernel) should be able to deal with that without tying the rpcbind transport to the transport that is being queried, and that is what is truly broken here. So I think I would rather see this problem addressed in the portmap/rpcbind client implementations and not in the upper level mountd clients. If a portmap query doesn't work over UDP, it seems like it should try it over TCP instead, and then remember that for later queries. I think your objection would be that this doesn't address the regression for particular combinations of nfs-utils and kernel versions, but I don't have a better suggestion at the moment. > If mount still fails, try with a ping to get the old, thorough, > behaviour. > > This goes on top of the patch to use connected UDP ports to talk to > portmap. > > NeilBrown > > From 852424a9a02dbe1a7c3b75a014bc71cad2ab6d5e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: Neil Brown <neilb@xxxxxxx> > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:45:50 +1000 > Subject: [PATCH] Check nfs options (vers/protocol) before trying mount. > > As the kernels nfs-mount client does not have heuristics to pick the > best protocol/version, also check with portmap to find what is > available before requesting a mount. Again, I may not be clear on the original requirements here. My understanding is that the legacy mount command uses default settings if "proto/mountproto" are not specified. It does not attempt to use "the best" settings unless the default settings don't work. This is what the text-based mount logic does -- it uses default settings (NFSv3 over TCP, mountd v3 over UDP), then punts if it needs service discovery. I'm not convinced the current text-based co-operative model is inadequate and should be modified so that the mount.nfs command probes then rewrites the mount options *before* calling the kernel the first time. This is what we are trying to avoid by doing the majority of the mount option parsing in the kernel and not in user space. It feels as if we are throwing out the baby with the bath water. > > However don't try to 'ping' the services. For NFS, this ping would > need to come from a reserved port, and these are a scarce resource. > > If the mount found, retry the probe doing any ping that might be > needed in the hope of finding the problem. > > Note: this patch also removes the (recently added) setting of > mountport= in the mount arguments. This is because: > 1/ the kernel can find it easily itself > 2/ it could confuse unmount which may be run much later > when mountd is running on a different port. > > > Signed-off-by: Neil Brown <neilb@xxxxxxx> > --- > utils/mount/network.c | 35 +++++++++++++++++++++-------------- > utils/mount/network.h | 2 +- > utils/mount/nfsmount.c | 2 +- > utils/mount/stropts.c | 18 +++++++----------- > 4 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 27 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/utils/mount/network.c b/utils/mount/network.c > index ff50512..e53bd53 100644 > --- a/utils/mount/network.c > +++ b/utils/mount/network.c > @@ -500,9 +500,11 @@ static unsigned short getport(struct sockaddr_in *saddr, > * Use the portmapper to discover whether or not the service we want is > * available. The lists 'versions' and 'protos' define ordered sequences > * of service versions and udp/tcp protocols to probe for. > + * If 'ping' is set, set an RPC NULL request to make sure the service > + * is there. Else just assume that it is. > */ > static int probe_port(clnt_addr_t *server, const unsigned long *versions, > - const unsigned int *protos) > + const unsigned int *protos, int ping) > { > struct sockaddr_in *saddr = &server->saddr; > struct pmap *pmap = &server->pmap; > @@ -530,7 +532,8 @@ static int probe_port(clnt_addr_t *server, const unsigned long *versions, > _("UDP") : _("TCP"), > p_port); > } > - if (clnt_ping(saddr, prog, *p_vers, *p_prot, NULL)) > + if (!ping || > + clnt_ping(saddr, prog, *p_vers, *p_prot, NULL)) > goto out_ok; > } > } > @@ -567,7 +570,7 @@ out_ok: > return 1; > } > > -static int probe_nfsport(clnt_addr_t *nfs_server) > +static int probe_nfsport(clnt_addr_t *nfs_server, int ping) > { > struct pmap *pmap = &nfs_server->pmap; > > @@ -575,12 +578,14 @@ static int probe_nfsport(clnt_addr_t *nfs_server) > return 1; > > if (nfs_mount_data_version >= 4) > - return probe_port(nfs_server, probe_nfs3_first, probe_tcp_first); > + return probe_port(nfs_server, probe_nfs3_first, probe_tcp_first, > + ping); > else > - return probe_port(nfs_server, probe_nfs2_only, probe_udp_only); > + return probe_port(nfs_server, probe_nfs2_only, probe_udp_only, > + ping); > } > > -static int probe_mntport(clnt_addr_t *mnt_server) > +static int probe_mntport(clnt_addr_t *mnt_server, int ping) > { > struct pmap *pmap = &mnt_server->pmap; > > @@ -588,9 +593,11 @@ static int probe_mntport(clnt_addr_t *mnt_server) > return 1; > > if (nfs_mount_data_version >= 4) > - return probe_port(mnt_server, probe_mnt3_first, probe_udp_first); > + return probe_port(mnt_server, probe_mnt3_first, probe_udp_first, > + ping); > else > - return probe_port(mnt_server, probe_mnt1_first, probe_udp_only); > + return probe_port(mnt_server, probe_mnt1_first, probe_udp_only, > + ping); > } > > /** > @@ -603,7 +610,7 @@ static int probe_mntport(clnt_addr_t *mnt_server) > * > * A side effect of calling this function is that rpccreateerr is set. > */ > -int probe_bothports(clnt_addr_t *mnt_server, clnt_addr_t *nfs_server) > +int probe_bothports(clnt_addr_t *mnt_server, clnt_addr_t *nfs_server, int ping) > { > struct pmap *nfs_pmap = &nfs_server->pmap; > struct pmap *mnt_pmap = &mnt_server->pmap; > @@ -625,9 +632,9 @@ int probe_bothports(clnt_addr_t *mnt_server, clnt_addr_t *nfs_server) > > for (; *probe_vers; probe_vers++) { > nfs_pmap->pm_vers = mntvers_to_nfs(*probe_vers); > - if ((res = probe_nfsport(nfs_server) != 0)) { > + if ((res = probe_nfsport(nfs_server, ping) != 0)) { > mnt_pmap->pm_vers = *probe_vers; > - if ((res = probe_mntport(mnt_server)) != 0) > + if ((res = probe_mntport(mnt_server, ping)) != 0) > return 1; > memcpy(mnt_pmap, &save_mnt, sizeof(*mnt_pmap)); > } > @@ -645,9 +652,9 @@ out_bad: > return 0; > > version_fixed: > - if (!probe_nfsport(nfs_server)) > + if (!probe_nfsport(nfs_server, ping)) > goto out_bad; > - return probe_mntport(mnt_server); > + return probe_mntport(mnt_server, ping); > } > > static int probe_statd(void) > @@ -714,7 +721,7 @@ int nfs_call_umount(clnt_addr_t *mnt_server, dirpath *argp) > enum clnt_stat res = 0; > int msock; > > - if (!probe_mntport(mnt_server)) > + if (!probe_mntport(mnt_server, 0)) > return 0; > clnt = mnt_openclnt(mnt_server, &msock); > if (!clnt) > diff --git a/utils/mount/network.h b/utils/mount/network.h > index a4dba1b..6c2013f 100644 > --- a/utils/mount/network.h > +++ b/utils/mount/network.h > @@ -39,7 +39,7 @@ typedef struct { > static const struct timeval TIMEOUT = { 20, 0 }; > static const struct timeval RETRY_TIMEOUT = { 3, 0 }; > > -int probe_bothports(clnt_addr_t *, clnt_addr_t *); > +int probe_bothports(clnt_addr_t *, clnt_addr_t *, int); > int nfs_gethostbyname(const char *, struct sockaddr_in *); > int nfs_name_to_address(const char *, const sa_family_t, > struct sockaddr *, socklen_t *); > diff --git a/utils/mount/nfsmount.c b/utils/mount/nfsmount.c > index 6355681..905d61d 100644 > --- a/utils/mount/nfsmount.c > +++ b/utils/mount/nfsmount.c > @@ -129,7 +129,7 @@ nfs_call_mount(clnt_addr_t *mnt_server, clnt_addr_t *nfs_server, > enum clnt_stat stat; > int msock; > > - if (!probe_bothports(mnt_server, nfs_server)) > + if (!probe_bothports(mnt_server, nfs_server, 1)) > goto out_bad; > > clnt = mnt_openclnt(mnt_server, &msock); > diff --git a/utils/mount/stropts.c b/utils/mount/stropts.c > index 09fca86..767d481 100644 > --- a/utils/mount/stropts.c > +++ b/utils/mount/stropts.c > @@ -314,7 +314,7 @@ static int nfs_is_permanent_error(int error) > * Returns a new group of mount options if successful; otherwise > * NULL is returned if some failure occurred. > */ > -static struct mount_options *nfs_rewrite_mount_options(char *str) > +static struct mount_options *nfs_rewrite_mount_options(char *str, int ping) > { > struct mount_options *options; > char *option, new_option[64]; > @@ -405,7 +405,7 @@ static struct mount_options *nfs_rewrite_mount_options(char *str) > po_remove_all(options, "tcp"); > po_remove_all(options, "udp"); > > - if (!probe_bothports(&mnt_server, &nfs_server)) { > + if (!probe_bothports(&mnt_server, &nfs_server, ping)) { > errno = ESPIPE; > goto err; > } > @@ -441,11 +441,6 @@ static struct mount_options *nfs_rewrite_mount_options(char *str) > if (po_append(options, new_option) == PO_FAILED) > goto err; > > - snprintf(new_option, sizeof(new_option) - 1, > - "mountport=%lu", mnt_server.pmap.pm_port); > - if (po_append(options, new_option) == PO_FAILED) > - goto err; > - > errno = 0; > return options; > > @@ -486,13 +481,13 @@ static int nfs_sys_mount(const struct nfsmount_info *mi, const char *type, > * 'extra_opts' are updated to reflect the mount options that worked. > * If the retry fails, 'options' and 'extra_opts' are left unchanged. > */ > -static int nfs_retry_nfs23mount(struct nfsmount_info *mi) > +static int nfs_try_nfs23mount_probe(struct nfsmount_info *mi, int ping) > { > struct mount_options *retry_options; > char *retry_str = NULL; > char **extra_opts = mi->extra_opts; > > - retry_options = nfs_rewrite_mount_options(*extra_opts); > + retry_options = nfs_rewrite_mount_options(*extra_opts, ping); > if (!retry_options) > return 0; > > @@ -547,7 +542,7 @@ static int nfs_try_nfs23mount(struct nfsmount_info *mi) > if (mi->fake) > return 1; > > - if (nfs_sys_mount(mi, "nfs", *extra_opts)) > + if (nfs_try_nfs23mount_probe(mi, 0)) > return 1; > > /* > @@ -557,7 +552,8 @@ static int nfs_try_nfs23mount(struct nfsmount_info *mi) > if (errno != EOPNOTSUPP && errno != EPROTONOSUPPORT) > return 0; > > - return nfs_retry_nfs23mount(mi); > + /* Probe harder */ > + return nfs_try_nfs23mount_probe(mi, 1); > } > > /* > -- > 1.5.6.3 > > -- "Alright guard, begin the unnecessarily slow-moving dipping mechanism." --Dr. Evil -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html