On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 02:24:02PM -0700, Davidlohr Bueso wrote: > On Sat, 2015-07-25 at 12:47 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > > I certainly agree that it doesn't make sense to make all architectures > > select SRCU, if an unremovable core kernel feature uses SRCU. If > > possible, I'd really like to avoid seeing SRCU become mandatory again, > > though. > > I find it very strange that srcu is not taken for granted like rcu is, > or even regular locking primitives. How much overhead does srcu add? About 2k. (For scale, note that a tinyconfig kernel is currently on the order of 700-800k, so that's an appreciable fraction of the kernel.) > > Is there any chance at all of the shrinker mechanism becoming optional? > > At first glance, it seems reasonably separate from the rest of mm, in > > that if it didn't exist and shrinking didn't happen, the rest of mm > > still works. If that happened, MM_SHRINKER could select SRCU. > > Some mm functionality might very possibly rely on srcu in the future if > we expect any chances of scaling, ie: faults. So I'd rather not take a > short term solution here, as we'll probably be discussing this again > otherwise. What other mm functionality plans to use SRCU? Among other things, no-mmu builds might still be able to omit it. > > If that's not possible, then for the moment, I'd suggest making a hidden > > symbol MM_SHRINKER that's always y and does "select SRCU", to preserve > > SRCU's modularity for the moment while not forcing every architecture to > > select it. > > This is _very_ hacking. While tinyfication has its uses and > applications, I'd rather not have it in the way of normal kernels. Thinking about it further, the better alternative if SRCU can't be kept optional CONFIG_SRCU "default y" and hidden, so that it doesn't get disabled by tinyconfig. - Josh Triplett -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-next" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html