I am an end user, I do not know precisely what bisecting means, but I have spent some time on bug 8895, I suppose I have totally bisseced it, but it seems that it has been lost. It is clearly a bug and I am still patching every kernel to avoid the fib6 crash, obviously I am the only one to get it. It is true that kernel developper's time is more important than user's one, but staying modest and respectfull of the brainless bisesting users is a must! Our time is just as yours, not extensible. Anyway, keep on the good kernel work, we all need it. On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 15:46 -0700, David Miller wrote: > From: "Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@xxxxxxxxx> > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:09:11 +0200 > > > You can't expect users to know how to debug a problem or even bisect > > it. > > [ The person you are replying to was being sarcastic, BTW. ] > > That's not the case we're talking about in this specific instance. In > this particular case the user is more than capable of bisecting, he > just isn't willing to invest the time. > > And I'm supposed to be willing to invest the time to analyze the TCP > dumps or whatever to diagnose the problem? And I guess I should do > this for every single networking bug report or issue? Who is > going to clone me and the rest of the core networking developers > so that this is actually tenable? > > That's ludicrious, I don't have a reproducer, this person does. And > if they bisect, we'll know _exactly_ what change introduced the > problem. Then I can use my brain to figure out the correct way > to resolve the problem. > > Bisecting is a mindless activity that saves developers tons of time. > > What people don't get is that this is a situation where the "end node > principle" applies. When you have limited resources (here: > developers) you don't push the bulk of the burdon upon them. Instead > you push things out to the resource you have a lot of, the end nodes > (here: users), so that the situation actually scales. > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-net" in > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > � > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-net" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
