OK, I think I am getting the picture. 1) looks like what I need may be possible, at least as far as some kernels are concerned. It's not clear that 2.4.25 will work. 2) I only have to perform close to magic in locating the "right" tools that happen to work on a "right" kernel release. 3) Clearly the route processing is in flux, at least within the releases I am dealing with, so I need to be careful interpreting what I see, and I should avoid making any inferences. There is no doubt that the 127.x net is treated in a special way. If I have to believe what I just learned, then the 127 routes are in a "local" table, a table on which the "route" utility by definition does not operate! On the 2.4.25 machine I cannot get any of the "ip" commands to execute without an error: $ ip route del 127.0.0.1 dev lo table local ip: either "to" is duplicate, or "table" is a garbage. Since there was no "to" on the command line I suspect the busybox crap to be doing something very bad. I'll look at that. To summarize, it appears that I can subnet the 127 net by appropriately manipulating one or two kernel routing tables, if I can find the right tools to do that. If the tools don't work, then getting the tools to work would be the necessary modifications I would have to make on my machines to get the job done. I'd like to thank everyone for their help. Regards, -Zdenek - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-net" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html