>its not even allowing me to copy it ...then surely it wont allow me mv as >well... what else can i try... >[root@test root]# mount >/dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw) >[root@test /]# cd /usr >[root@test usr]# cp bin testbin >cp: omitting directory `bin' "cp" does not normally copy direcrories as such by DEFAULT. Use the "-R" flag on "cp" to make it 'recurse' and copy the whole directory and directory/files under it. e.g. "cp -R bin bincopy" And, show us all the results of the following 2 commands, please. ls -ld /usr/bin lsattr -d /usr/bin --S Iremonger <exxsi@xxxxxxxxxx> - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-net" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html