On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Jamal Hadi wrote: > > No, it needs to work in the worst case. If some script kiddie can peg my > > CPU with a synflood then there's still a problem. > > > > Lets work on defining "real world". Factor in the script kiddie. "real world" is the worst-case DOS tool available. Synflood tools like juno seem to fit that category. If you think juno is not a good real-world test, then keep pissing people off and you'll find out how real it is. ;-) > > > I have spent many hours investigating peoples problems sshing to their > > > machines only to find out they didnt follow instructions. After the > > > 10th person doing the same thing, what do you expect my reaction to be? > > > > Take 15 minutes and write a web page with the magic settings required to > > make things work. > > > > I have many times. I still do. It is also a thankless task. URL? I've looked at almost everything on your web page since you were involved in the pppoe client software. I haven't seen anything that says how to sprinkle the pixie dust so my router works well. > > No, as I said I'm moving ~30mbps and ~10kpps in and out of 2 3c905cx > > cards. > > > > Change your NICs. I dont know what else to suggest. Yup. It just takes a bit of time and planning when the box is deployed in a POP 400km away... > > The last time I looked at the zebra list things seemed pretty dead. Most > > of the new work is now happening on the commercial zebra development. > > > > Maybe its time to fork Zebra into something that has the same momentum it > had in the earlier days. Hmmm... maybe we can both bug MCR to try your suggested changes... > > You don't seem to get it. There's at least a dozen things more important > > to me than seeing Linux routing performance compete with Cisco and BSD. > > Again, if you wanna complain about it at the level you are i think its > only fair you help. I actually dont care about CISCO or BSD. We dont win > because someone else looses. We simply want to be the best. You can want to be the best, but I don't think it's fair to sucker people into using Linux as a core router with false claims. > > Now that people like Rob and Dave are taking a hard look at it I think > > it's worth my while to ante up for a couple more rounds. I still fell > > like a sucker that should have walked away from the table a long time ago > > though. > > > > I think your setup maybe the question. Like i said theres probably a > hunderd variables involved. It is up to you to isolate things. > Yes, theres a support line in open source, but it is rewarded more > when people show some effort. Fuck, if you think I haven't put any effort into it already then there's no point in even trying any more. > to be comfortable with what they know best. Most of the people i have > met that put Linux down or consider it a joke come from the old > BSD camp. Its their loss and i dismiss anything they have to say. In my case I would have been better off to dismiss your advice a year ago. How does that help the Linux cause? -Ralph - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-net" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html